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Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:10 am

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i think i'm fairly good at reading maria. i think i lean slightly to over scumreading them iirc.
elli is a v good player and i def believe he could be doing this as scum. if you gave me their read without context, i would probs put 60-70% odds on maria flipping scum.
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Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:25 am

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In post 2164, Bins wrote:i think pan is town 60%
i think maria is town 70%
i think tchill is town 51%
In that case aren't them scumreads as the average of someone randing town is 75%+?
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Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:26 am

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From my original strike list, would probably also strike Quick and Bins.

Still think we should kill all of {MariaR, Srceenplay, the worst}.
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Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 2175, Randomnamechange wrote:i think i'm fairly good at reading maria. i think i lean slightly to over scumreading them iirc.
elli is a v good player and i def believe he could be doing this as scum. if you gave me their read without context, i would probs put 60-70% odds on maria flipping scum.
oh yeah it would be worth if you could give your read on the whole fiesta around tchill
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Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:43 am

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In post 2177, Creature wrote:From my original strike list, would probably also strike Quick and Bins.

Still think we should kill all of {MariaR, Srceenplay, the worst}.
I’ve ignored it for awhile but wtf dude.
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Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:12 am

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In post 2178, Brigand Vvulf wrote:
In post 2175, Randomnamechange wrote:i think i'm fairly good at reading maria. i think i lean slightly to over scumreading them iirc.
elli is a v good player and i def believe he could be doing this as scum. if you gave me their read without context, i would probs put 60-70% odds on maria flipping scum.
oh yeah it would be worth if you could give your read on the whole fiesta around tchill
can you give me a set of pages to read for this? i've read some bits of the game and a few isos? do you want a tchill read or look at other content as well?
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Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:13 am

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In post 2161, Bins wrote:
In post 2159, Hopkirk wrote:Pan/Grey/MariaR/Bins/The worst/Tchill.
STOP NAMING PEOPLE IM SLOTTING AS LYNCHBAIT TOWN
Maybe he's scum. Y'know, like, obvious.
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Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:17 am

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Like Hopkirk thinks I need gambits to avoid the lynch day 1. If anything I need gambits to avoid the fucking night kill N1, I've been killed a hell of a lot more times N1 than I'll ever be lynched on day 1. Why? Because I'm a good player, and he's not.

I got my role PM in a spoiler. I responded with a joke "I think I'll avoid spoilers". The mod accepted it. There's no more or less to it. He flipped out, because he's a fucking scumfuck and it's something easy to flip out over.

All he's done since then is scumplain. I'm actually sad other people won't lynch him with me, but apparently useless shit from Elli is worth more than my actual reads.
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Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:27 am

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In post 2182, GreyICE wrote:Like Hopkirk thinks I need gambits to avoid the lynch day 1. If anything I need gambits to avoid the fucking night kill N1, I've been killed a hell of a lot more times N1 than I'll ever be lynched on day 1. Why? Because I'm a good player, and he's not.

I got my role PM in a spoiler. I responded with a joke "I think I'll avoid spoilers". The mod accepted it. There's no more or less to it. He flipped out, because he's a fucking scumfuck and it's something easy to flip out over.

All he's done since then is scumplain. I'm actually sad other people won't lynch him with me, but apparently useless shit from Elli is worth more than my actual reads.
I didn't say you need to avoid the d1 lynch, I said the opposite. I think you can avoid the d1 lynch even while doing it, and if you do then you avoid future lynches too. My argument was that scum you would know you can avoid the d1 lynch, so it isn't a bad move as scum like Bins said.
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Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:29 am

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Again, I love all this alignment specific information you've gathered about me not opening a spoiler tag.

Was the link to the scum PT outside of the spoiler tag?
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Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:31 am

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I don't believe you didn't open it.
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Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:31 am

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In case that wasn't obvious already.
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Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:32 am

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Why aren't you voting Panoptican? He needs more votes.
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Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:36 am

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In post 2185, Hopkirk wrote:I don't believe you didn't open it.
I mean, its obvious as fuck that he DID open it b/c its against site rules to not look at it.

IDK what the current VC is but town prob needs a lynch at this point. Any of Maria/GreyIce/Quick/Bins are good lynches I think.
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Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:38 am

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In post 2160, Brigand Vvulf wrote:
In post 2020, Centipede Syndrome wrote:the best use of people's time for the rest of today is to just assume maria is scum with me/chara and work with us on finding the buddies.
I'm not going to pull any secret meta cards on the people left I don't think so it'll be fairly traditional.
i keep trying
but i keep failing

for anyone to put stocks into your read they'd have to first, well put blind faith in you, and two, think maria is pulling a PR stunt to simply buy more time
otherwise they can just say "man, this puts us into a rather difficult position I'd rather not be in" because can't analyze the wagon

what do
I'd go for the blind faith route.
It's pretty juicy.
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Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:42 am

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In post 2177, Creature wrote:From my original strike list, would probably also strike Quick and Bins.

Still think we should kill all of {MariaR, Srceenplay, the worst}.
yeah this is a good list
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Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:43 am

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In post 2175, Randomnamechange wrote:i think i'm fairly good at reading maria. i think i lean slightly to over scumreading them iirc.
elli is a v good player and i def believe he could be doing this as scum. if you gave me their read without context, i would probs put 60-70% odds on maria flipping scum.
You know, that's like A LOT higher than anyone else on this playerlist atm yeah.
I wonder where you should vote.
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Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:44 am

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In post 2094, Spiffeh wrote:Gork I really didn't pay attention in Kidney, I'll try to look at it later

I do agree that hinting at a PR and doing literally nothing else is p. sketchy
I dare you to keep reading into her over and over again until you eyes starting getting blurry and your brain just starts telling yourself that Elli was right.
It's a good feeling.
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Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 2180, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 2178, Brigand Vvulf wrote:
In post 2175, Randomnamechange wrote:i think i'm fairly good at reading maria. i think i lean slightly to over scumreading them iirc.
elli is a v good player and i def believe he could be doing this as scum. if you gave me their read without context, i would probs put 60-70% odds on maria flipping scum.
oh yeah it would be worth if you could give your read on the whole fiesta around tchill
can you give me a set of pages to read for this? i've read some bits of the game and a few isos? do you want a tchill read or look at other content as well?
independent read on tchill is sufficient
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Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:58 am

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In post 2189, Centipede Syndrome wrote: I'd go for the blind faith route.
It's pretty juicy.
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Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:05 am

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In post 2188, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2185, Hopkirk wrote:I don't believe you didn't open it.
I mean, its obvious as fuck that he DID open it b/c its against site rules to not look at it.

IDK what the current VC is but town prob needs a lynch at this point. Any of Maria/GreyIce/Quick/Bins are good lynches I think.
3 of those are good
I assume TW isn't there because no associations
Why not Pan?
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Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:12 am

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Votecount 1.37

MariaR(6)
~ (161), (107), (152), (70), (94), (151)

Tchill13(3)
~ (88), (66), (43)
GreyICE(2)
~ (141), (122)
Ausuka(2)
~ (50), (56)
Thor665(1)
~ (269)
Quick(1)
~ (53)
Panopticon(1)
~ (53)
Nero Cain(1)
~ (87)
Brian Skies(1)
~ (105)
Bins(1)
~ (188)


Not Voting (4): Town Gunner(0), Mafia Gunner(0), The Worst(4), (82)

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

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Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:14 am

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TW would be pure policy ATM. There is actually an association between TW and Tchill. Like I kinda called TW scum to see if he'd get in here and do shit and tchill was all like "y u call him out"? scum buddies/scum light defending TW for town cred?

I guess I'd be fine with Pan too. Like their vote on tchill seemed a little bit opportunistic but I'm not really all that sure on the current case on them.
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Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:15 am

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I don't think that I've ever thought to myself, "GreyICE is a good player who is a high priority kill target."
Ever.

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Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:16 am

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The current case on me is a scum case, as I am town.
It's that easy.

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