Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[GreyICE]

I don't really want to lynch MoI. On-wagon kill implies off wagon scum and all that.

This is fucking nonsense.

No.

Really.

This is nonsense.

Gamma, are you town?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes I am town
and Mathdino taught me that so bring that up with him when you can

[GreyICE]

Any tell like that becomes worthless upon contact with the enemy. For instance a you/MOI scumteam might shoot a universal town read on the wagon for exactly that reason.

So talk to me. Your vote stayed on Saudade so long it rotted. Then it flipped over to Flavor Leaf when it looked like he was going down, then was around midway to later on the cult wagon. Today you're not voting. So... what are you thinking. I haven't exactly been overwhelmed by your presence in this game if I'm being honest.

[GreyICE]

Oh there was an Erica vote in there, but that was a vote on a player literally not in the game so that's really unproductive.

[Gamma Emerald]

Any tell like that becomes worthless upon contact with the enemy. For instance a you/MOI scumteam might shoot a universal town read on the wagon for exactly that reason.

So talk to me. Your vote stayed on Saudade so long it rotted. Then it flipped over to Flavor Leaf when it looked like he was going down, then was around midway to later on the cult wagon. Today you're not voting. So... what are you thinking. I haven't exactly been overwhelmed by your presence in this game if I'm being honest.

Saudade was a tunnel and I will admit that. I don't think Flavor Leaf was going down? And also I feel like there were more votes than you are acknowledging. As for what I'm thinking right now I might start poking at players who opposed the CoA wagon for some reason or another

[GreyICE]

Vote: Gamma Emerald

I'm going to leave this here then.

[implosion]

Grey, gamma, saudade
hoopla
piplup
flavor, MoI
hiraki, prism
stefan

is vaguely where I'm at. Particularly interested in digging into hiraki/prism. Also piplup is entirely lingering and needs to be refreshed. Flavor/MoI are both town to me at this point but I feel like my justifications for calling them both town aren't especially good. MoI I like the hammer from. It looks genuine and not something I think scum does in that spot for fear of conspicuousness. Hoopla is the other read I get from the wagon, her vote is very very town.

Don't think this is gamma's scumgame. Though I don't remember why I definitely remember thinking that pretty confidently.

VOTE: Stefan

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote: Gamma Emerald

I'm going to leave this here then.

How about you explain what you took issue with instead of shitting out a vote

[implosion]

The on/off wagon thing is dumb. For reasons Grey said, and because there's a good chance that it's one-on-one-off (just from purely my reads/the numbers, I think looking at situations like this at a high level and saying "there were probably x scum on the wagon" is bunk).

[implosion]

This is nonsense.

Gamma, are you town?

It is precisely the kind of nonsense that Gamma tends to spout as town, though I haven't seen his scumgame I think.

[GreyICE]

Really having a problem scumreading prism with the posthammer stuff. I mean I've been wrong on him before, but it felt like town who was genuinely annoyed at the cult flashwagon. If there's one person making hay about the "awful flashwagon" it's Piplup. Erika is a good scumpick. The game wasn't that disheartening, but if Eddie Cane wanted to change his entire posting style and make a new account for it, getting clotheslined by a scumgame when you don't even know what your new town game should look like is pretty disheartening.

Cheetory feels like the sort of person LLD would shoot, to the point where I'm wondering if someone's channeling her spirit. It's a weird shot.

I'd REALLY love to see more from Saudade.

[Gamma Emerald]

wait is Piplup confirmed to be an Eddie alt?
Also why do you mention LLD?

[GreyICE]

Believe me or don't, I don't mind. I don't speculate much though.

LLD has this weird habit of making very odd scum kills that work out for her, and Cheetory was a very odd scum kill indeed.

[Gamma Emerald]

If we're talking "weird kills that work out" Flavor is probably the first person you should be looking at in this playerlist

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that Cheetory was actually a rather poor kill that seems like it would be a good kill, if that makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Gamma - I kill of my threats, though. Cheetory wasn’t pushing me at all and was even going along with my pushes.

I feel someone saw them as a strong player and decided to kill them off.

[GreyICE]

I mean. I could just vote Flavor. It's an idea. It's an idea I really don't mind. It would make my day 1 play look fantastic if it was Stefan, Flavor, Cult.

But gosh, do they not shoot me if that's the case? Not shoot MOI? Shoot Cheetory instead? I dunno man, that seems like the low EV play.

Something weird happened here, and I should look at my reads again.

[GreyICE]

Unvote

Implosion is town
Prism is town
Hoopla is town

Despite my vote, I feel kinda good about Gamma. I'm kind of sad that my town reads start petering out though, usually on day 2 I can list off half the players without hitting scum.
Huh, where does that leave me?

[Prism]

If GreyICE is town, and I think he is, we're about to have a fucking ball. I

hate

being wrong. I'm an entirely different animal now.

I'll be at my computer again tomorrow, and then we can dance.

[GreyICE]

I know you do. It was pretty fucking fun to bait you yesterday. You really thought he was flipping town too.

[Prism]

Also Implosion, you sure you're the type to just consider hammering out of apathy? And voice that consideration when you decide not to?

P-Edit: If you're town I'm going to pat you on the back and link arms gladly, because I owe you one, but if you did it as scum: It doesn't matter, and I'm going to chew you up and spit you out alive.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would shoot the hell out of Grey and do the basic “that’s why he died, duh!” gimmick, and nobody would bat an eye

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m actually thinking Hoopla is town now.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Gamma - I understand why you stated the off wagon thing. I don’t think that was dumb. But because of who Cheetory is, how he was stances, I don’t necessarily think that’s the right path to go off of.

[Flavor Leaf]

Grey, Hoopla, Prism, stefan all seem town to me.

I don’t feel like Cult/Stefan are likely partners. I feel scum are totally okay with them coming across as partners, though, but that’s pretty surface level.