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dude what in the thread you literally said "the takeway in practice is that if someone votes first you should probably give them townpoints" (not 100% clearing, but as evidence in favor of them being town)In post 1194, implosion wrote:because "optimal" is in practice not a useful way to play the game. Optimality as a concept is useful for analyzing vanilla setups for EVs. It's almost never useful in a game.
"Optimal" play is literally to roll a die to pick the lynch every day, in a game theoretic sense. Minus the subtlety that most mods forbid provable randomness.
that seems like practical application to me
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In post 1202, Saudade wrote:You were playing with a lot more... balls(?) in our newbie game.
That’s a personality thing, not an AI thingIn post 1201, Saudade wrote:No I scumread you for a sh!t load of other things beforehand but I just like pointing that out because it ultimately symbolizes your entire gameplayCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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no it puts in contrast your defensive tonedscumplay to your balls-like townplayIn post 1205, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1202, Saudade wrote:You were playing with a lot more... balls(?) in our newbie game.
That’s a personality thing, not an AI thingIn post 1201, Saudade wrote:No I scumread you for a sh!t load of other things beforehand but I just like pointing that out because it ultimately symbolizes your entire gameplay-
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Fair enough. I can’t do that here because too many people are tunneling me and don’t look at my analysis.In post 1202, Saudade wrote:You were playing with a lot more... balls(?) in our newbie game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatistIn post 1207, Saudade wrote:I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll<Embrace The Void>
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To be fair I'd be a lot more happy coming into this day had we lynched Flavor day one and he flipped, I'd feel.. accomplished?In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatistIn post 1207, Saudade wrote:I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll-
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EVERYONE KNOWS IM BALLSIER AS SCUM.In post 1209, Saudade wrote:
no it puts in contrast your defensive tonedscumplay to your balls-like townplayIn post 1205, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1202, Saudade wrote:You were playing with a lot more... balls(?) in our newbie game.
That’s a personality thing, not an AI thingIn post 1201, Saudade wrote:No I scumread you for a sh!t load of other things beforehand but I just like pointing that out because it ultimately symbolizes your entire gameplay
You’ve also never seen me as scum, so you using meta reads to strengthen a case has no merit.
I claimed neighbor with my two scum buddies recently to win a game.
I play with buddies well as scum, and don’t generally have everyone coming at me.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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You’d rather not have had a scum flip? This is incredibly scummy.In post 1213, Saudade wrote:
To be fair I'd be a lot more happy coming into this day had we lynched Flavor day one and he flipped, I'd feel.. accomplished?In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatistIn post 1207, Saudade wrote:I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you rollCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Okay this makes sense to me actually, you would feel okay if you had pushed your read to lynch even if it hadn't flipped scum since you'd feel like you impacted the gameIn post 1213, Saudade wrote:
To be fair I'd be a lot more happy coming into this day had we lynched Flavor day one and he flipped, I'd feel.. accomplished?In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatistIn post 1207, Saudade wrote:I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll
I think I'll probably follow what Flavor said about you since I felt his points for town!you were pretty good
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Did you really just read half of my sentence, take it out of context to fit your needs again in such a blatant manner?In post 1215, Flavor Leaf wrote:
You’d rather not have had a scum flip? This is incredibly scummy.In post 1213, Saudade wrote:
To be fair I'd be a lot more happy coming into this day had we lynched Flavor day one and he flipped, I'd feel.. accomplished?In post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote:
That's not what I saw as defeatist, I saw you not getting your wagon over a scum lynch and complaining about it as defeatistIn post 1207, Saudade wrote:I wasn't a defeatist I actually came into this day with a half of an open mind giving flavor a chance.. alas you cannot change what you roll-
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VOTE: Stefan
No, I was being annoying. Difference.
But I’d rather go Stefan today. Saudade I need some more time with, and I’d rather just hit scum today.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I can pull anything offIn post 1220, Saudade wrote:Both of us know you won't because you don't think you can pull this one off and try to towntell out of this by sharing your "well saudade is voting me but hes newbtown"
but then you realzie you've no other way out of this either so "well maybe saudade is scum"
If you don’t think I’m arrogant enough to actually think that, well, okay then, you do youzzzCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd
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