Touhou UCanPick 5 - [Game Over]

[Lexa]

gamma is generally town read across the playerbase, his posts have a general town tone and mindset, and he made one specific post that has absolutely zero scum equity. gamma gets lock towned

me/brian/dan/gamma - town
titus - to be reviewed, only scum if kiana hard bussed both partners
dle - who knows. when ive seen dle sub in the past its been as town so that's nice
elbirn - next to review, not looking good

[Lexa]

fun fact, elbirn's votes in this game have been purr (where it sat through deadline), hebi (where it sat through deadline), and sky pally (switched back to hebi)

zero votes on the conf scum, three votes on conf town and a vote on sky who is all but, plus wagon inactivity

[Lexa]

holy crap the first like 8 posts of elbirn's iso are the definition of LAMIST

[Lexa]

oh i forgot elbirn also voted eddie in between purr and hebi

[Lexa]

1. We should create a vote count with every player at L-1. This gives the vig the utility to shoot anyone without restriction, and avoids entirely the situation of scum getting to L-1 and then self hammering to gimp the vig. If scum does decide to over react to getting wagoned for utilitarian purposes and self hammers while not even actually being suspected, that's on them; we still killed scum.

Anyone who hammers one of these L-1 wagons is either confirmed scum or lynched by policy because don't fuck with me. I don't care if that player flips scum, the lol hammer might as well be scum going for town cred and should be made ded for being awful.

hahahaahahahahah

[Lexa]

I'm going to have to claim this eventually so my ability is also a card destroyer. Phase 1. I target a player and their card is destroyed, no muss, no fuss. I seem to be a counterclaim of sorts to human, but I'm conflicted because their role is so friggin convoluted and they used the same wording as my card (destroy)

I also bring this up because my role can enable the roles of others that require their target to not have a spellcard, for example Dunnstral. At the cost of screwing someone and doing a two phase combo, we can alignment check people.

People smarter than me can figure out what all of this means, goodnight starshines

this was the funny timing of his claim. this was ~15 posts after human claimed his role and elbirn decides to claim his unprompted. he states his role as a pseudo counter claim to HS but doesn't follow up. why doesnt he push? why doesnt he vote? why bother claiming here at all? possible looking for an excuse to get a claim out there before a scum role flips or to reduce the likelihood of being targetted for a card crush?

[Lexa]

at what point do we dayvig lexa

Lexa is town coalesce with me babe

this is the first time in the game they have mentioned my name

[Lexa]

@host would it be possible for you to show which players still have spell cards that are not used or crushed in the VC?

[Lexa]

Like I don't even know who robin is
Titus replaced DLE who I was townreading his tone but he did fuckall all game but also I think giving up as last scum would be such a douche move that I don't believe it

Who else is even left

implies elbirn/dle are not a team, elbirn would know who subbed for his partner

[Lexa]

so we lynch elbirn first and if the game doesnt end then we lynch dle if elbirn is town and titus if elbirn is scum

ez

[Lexa]

if elbirn does flip town though we'll need to quickhammer dle otherwise a theoretically dle/whomever pair can hammer gamma for a win

[Lexa]

Gamma isn't scum
I intend to vote robin but don't know if they're l-1

lel

[Lexa]

There's no way there's four scum with 15 players, that would mean we have 3 mislynches - 2 for the two vigs

good to think about tho

[Lexa]

Elbirn's role is useless when hebi's exists and your role is only worth 1 IC. (Because vigs aren't that good)

interesting

[Lexa]

In actual fact, I think your catch-ups look like they're constructed to reach a conclusion that you already decided on before you start posting them. Idk about HS and BS, but your posts read more like grandstanding to me than anything.

p-edit: I didn't call the entire player list scum. Here, I'll put a tier list

Kat, Gamma, Lexa
Purrcocet, KK
Gaiden, hebi
Elbirn, dunn
DLE, S

here's the legacy reads i was looking for, the one player who knew they were dying and had the time to make their best push as a now-confirmed town

[Lexa]

so we lynch elbirn first and if the game doesnt end then we lynch dle if elbirn is town and titus if elbirn is scum

ez

happy with this plan

only maybe wrinkle is dle claimed vig

[Gamma Emerald]

nico is dle slot fyi

[FakeGod]

@host would it be possible for you to show which players still have spell cards that are not used or crushed in the VC?

Some people might lie about whether their card is gone or not.

[Lexa]

nico is dle slot fyi

yes

[Elbirn]

I am ok with Elbrin Gamma or Robin lynches. Elbrin looks like he is trying to get people to turn against each other.

Please give examples for everyone when you have the time

just by the by this is an awful, terrible reaction to titus's post

To quote ancient memery I don't feel like looking for, call the fuhrer, I don't give a fuck

Asking for someone to substantiate a claim to determine they're not just pissing in the wind is...like...literally how this game is played

I don't trust Titus. I want to know why she says what she does and decide if she's full of shit based on that

[Lexa]

and the manner in which you asked titus to substantiate their claim was an awful, terrible reaction

faaaaar too conciliatory to someone you supposedly suspect, you present as exceedingly self-conscious about how you look while questioning her

[Elbirn]

Except that's wrong so blow it out your ass

[Elbirn]

Did i not have enough snark? Ask her to share with the class? Maybe I should have included an eye roll emoji, the kids love those

[Sky_Paladin]

so we lynch elbirn first and if the game doesnt end then we lynch dle if elbirn is town and titus if elbirn is scum

I am probably down with step 1 although I don't follow how town!Elbirn = scum!Titus. But that's okay, I'm banking on scum!Elbirn.

IIRC the hated status from previous Touhou U-Pick games was only on the phase the card was used; so it's probably not going to provoke a scum quickhammer.

Countdown to deadline: 1 day, 16 hours, 23 minutes

Titus/Dan/Gamma please vote.

All of your votes are required

; Elbirn won't self-vote and Nico probably won't vote at all. Note that due to the casualties we received in this phase we still need 5 to achieve the lynch even though we only have 7 players.

AKA if there are two scum then I just realised it's probably game over outside of night shenanigans since town can't control this lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

That is true. That's the best way to prove we don't have two scum then! If we can't get this lynch we know we have two scum present, and as such we will have to lynch me to prevent a scum win the next day! I am willing to go through with this!
VOTE: Elbirn