In post 649, Sando wrote: In post 647, Alonzo wrote:Ahhh all my talk about making a bastard of the logic sando and you want to prejudice a debate that hasnt even taken place yet.
I suspect that you have only a thin read on town Worst and dont want me to puncture the bubble maybe, i dont really understand #646, i reread 523# but thats a bit of a trainwreck too.
Are you saying that im scum with Oxy? Or just scum alone?
Oh cool, you're saying you should be ignored, good to know.
I misunderstood What Sando was implying here, talking of me rather than too me, then burns me for not understanding.
In post 673, Sando wrote:You can ignore the first half, it's pointless.
vague.
Duckling was the complete opposite of vague there.
Gimme One more read? for the road
The basic thrust of the argument from what I can gather, that duckling is constantly asking/demanding reads whilst providing few of his own. That's a reasonable point, but it's lost in the wall-post.
I read Alonzo as town.
Alonzo Town, but dismissive attitude lingers.
In post 693, Sando wrote: In post 400, Sando wrote:Not-lynch - Duckling, quick, Fumu, Sando, Oxy
Would lynch - Pintu, Spartan, Alonzo, Ico, CJ, N_M, Korina
Unsure - mutant
Like...only my Oxy and Alonzo reads have changed, I've been pretty consistent here.
You seem awfully upset that I'm voting Oxy...
My status shifts.. No case or push tho...
In post 695, Sando wrote: In post 692, Quick wrote:How on earth is Oxy the Scummiest person in the game when you have:
duck
NM
Spartan slot
Pin
Korina
This is also why I think this whole "zomg your TR is shit" thing is so stupid. There's 4 people right there that we agree should live in the lynch list, but you two would rather bang on for 10 pages about how one of my TRs might be wrong.
We should come back to this topic...
In post 740, Sando wrote: In post 735, MOMOMEN wrote:NEVER EVER LYNCH:
quick, the worst
town: korina fumuki sando pinto
unsorted: random, not mafia
scum: devle, ceejay, alonzo, ice
Which one are you?
What's with Korina, where dat from?
What's with Alonzo, where dat from?
Have you fully caught up or is dis still half the game reads?
Now questioning why someone else wants to SR me.. looking for a way in..
In post 1230, Sando wrote: In post 1226, Alonzo wrote:Notice how the hydra stops when im around?
That flip to eddie, the sudden list and long heartfelt speech, that didnt ring any alarm bells with you guys last night?
No that in particular, but I think there's scum in you two based on the last few pages...I just lean on it being you right about now.
Again no elaboration, nor vote, Just broadcasting.
In post 1255, Sando wrote:Quick
is obv!town
Duckling, Oxy, Mutant, Mom
I tend to read as a variety of strength of townleans, but they're contributing in generally townie ways and should not be today's lynch. Duckling is my strongest TR there, then Oxy, mutant and Mom bringing up the rear.
PK and CJ
I'm a very light townlean on, but they're not contributing a lot in townie ways so they're not in my non-lynch pool yet, I think they're a poor choice though.
Random and N_M
I scumlean on but there's not nearly enough for me to judge definitively.
Pintu
I scumlean on due to lack of constructive posting.
Alonzo
I'm currently fairly scumleaning on, I've flipped on this a few times so I'm currently mulling this one over.
Ico
I fairly definitively scumread.
Very safe set of reads given. Opportunely still cant make his mind up as to why Im ever scum here but better broadcast it again
In post 1335, Sando wrote:I'm going to bed, got a new gig tomorrow so gotta be sharp. Some thoughts:
a) Oxy's "case" was indeed pretty terrible
b) Duckling response struck me as "jesus dude, THIS is the town I've gotta deal with?!" - but then maybe I'm looking for that since it was my response to Quick. It did seem out of character from duckling though.
c) Pintu's "dun be toxic" is fine in isolation, but given some of the shade thrown around this game, I find it odd that this was what he decided needed attention
d) The overly placating (ok this is the wrong term, but he's kid-gloving duckling here) tone from Pintu strikes me as very odd as well
e) In light of mutants posts (and this is why I want to keep this fella around), Pintu is clearly capable of the level of toxicity he's accusing duckling of, which to be fair is not very high toxicity.
Overall, while I didn't like Ducklings response on a scummy scale, I'm probably biased from my Quick interactions which I felt were fairly similar so I'm not giving much AI points for it.
Pintu's reaction here really does not sit well for me, the effort put in not to actually make a judgement either way while also throwing toxicity charge at Duckling and nicely sneaking in the "this is Oxy's first real game" comment there...
Oxy was town making a bad case imo.
One of many cases of Sando actually being able to give reads... wheres my minority report huh?
In post 1393, Sando wrote:Nope, he's my top scummer. If anything he's gone up in scumminess for me, but also that's because some of my other reads have gone down in scumminess leaving him alone in the deep end of the scummy pool.
ITS OK TO VOTE FOR ICO EVERYBODY!
In post 1400, Sando wrote: In post 1398, Alonzo wrote:I see leadership potential in Ico tho which makes me think scum would want him slayed today.
Like I said 'wolves' dont always draw scum slots.
Town need strong methodical thinkers in this one and he looks like he has those.
@ Sando
What is this? Scum would want a good player lynched and therefore want Ico lynched and therefore wanting Ico lynched is scummy?
So basically wanting any "good" player (by what metric?) lynched is evidence of scumminess?
Nice shade without addressing the content or even actually stating that you disagree about scumminess there though, noted.
OMGUS - outta nowhere.
How very dare I indeed.
In post 1462, Sando wrote: In post 1454, MOMOMEN wrote:i am still here. not really feeling too well today, but i can offer that if ico flips town mutant and alonzo are spewed wolf.
I'm going with Alonzo as second most scummy regardless and most likely partner. What part of mutant says him being on Ico!town is particularly bad?
Still happy to be part of the Alonzo!scum chatter despite offering jack shit.
In post 1590, Sando wrote:Mom's tunnel on mutant screams bad T, but he's removed the vote so I'll assume reaction test sort of thing and ignore the bad part.
In post 1588, MOMOMEN wrote:pint random alonzo {your pick of a deepwolf or pk} would make sense to me.
I'm still keen on Alonzo, Random pings me but I haven't delved in there. Other than the Ico wagon, what's the goss on Pint?
Still dont have a case on alonzo....
In post 1603, Sando wrote:
Because as stated yesterday you were my second most scummy going into night, nothing changed there.
That's also a terrible vote on Mom, Eddie aint wrong, especially his particulars.
Nothing changed? Noting existed in the first place. You havn't made a single case against me yet. I shot to second scummiest without explanation. Your closest thing to a read is 'cant decide'
The Vote is solid. Make No mistake about that. You are blatantly defending Momo, when he consistently refuses to soften his attitude.
Moving to stop other players moving onto his wagon.
In post 1605, Sando wrote: In post 1604, Alonzo wrote: In post 1603, Sando wrote:
Because as stated yesterday you were my second most scummy going into night, nothing changed there.
That's also a terrible vote on Mom, Eddie aint wrong, especially his particulars.
So why are you handling me so different? Im now your number one scummer so vote me huh? And rally the troops to your cause...
Different from what? How I was on Ico at the end of Day 1, or different from how I was at the start of Day 1? The day has been open for like 6 hours, don't stress, there's plenty of time to lynch you yet.
Does rallying the troops to my cause strike you as a thing that I do, especially early in the day?
Infact Hes openly saying he would lynch me without ever having given a set of examples of me doing anything thats scummy in this game.
Thats what I'd say if u asked me about Sando