Open 716: Making Friends and Enemies [Game Over]

[Ankamius]

Mylo's the single easiest target still in the game and there's precedent for there being support for the wagon. The way it started was sketchy as hell, and verydark didn't exactly assuage that.

2 + 2 = 4

[Green Crayons]

Mylo is such an “easy” target his wagons each day have stalled.

[Ankamius]

Well

You win this one, Green Crayons, you and your rebuttal against a distorted version of the least relevant 1/3 of my statement.

[Ankamius]

(in all seriousness, Mylo is the

easiest

target still alive because they're the slot that's going to push back the least against pushes on them, there's ongoing support for their lynch, and they're in a narrow lynchpool. nobody else fulfills all three of those requirements)

[Mathdino]

criteria for D1 scum:

- was too inactive to stop a D1 bujaber lynch

- probably bussed bujaber honestly

- was on the terrible davesaz wagon

i looked through pops's ISO btw and it doesn't seem to point to anyone except verydark

if we hit town today i want a massclaim followed by GL --> verydark

VOTE: GC
let's go
GLscum is only consistent with one scumbuddy and that's VD

[Aster]

Prodding verydark, Kmd4390.

[Aster]

Vote Count 3.8

Votee	Voters
GuiltyLion (3)	Something_Smart (1471), Kmd4390 (1472), brassherald (1541)
Green Crayons (2)	Ankamius (1465), Mathdino (1554)
Mathdino (1)	verydark (1513)
Myloninja13 (1)	Green Crayons (1548)

Not voting:

GuiltyLion, Myloninja13

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

[Myloninja13]

I just don't like this GL wagon. I don't know much about him as a player (I've only seen one game of his) but I don't like this wagon. And the problem is that two of my town reads are on it, so it's likely it's not a scum driven wagon.

Although... I am pretty much town leaning on everyone here so...

[Myloninja13]

Forgive me if I've asked this before (I have a feeling like I have), but why is SS a confirmed town slot? We're obviously not lynching him, he wasn't on the dave wagon and he has had overall solid play but why is he never even discussed as a scum option?

[Green Crayons]

(in all seriousness, Mylo is the

easiest

target still alive because they're the slot that's going to push back the least against pushes on them, there's ongoing support for their lynch, and they're in a narrow lynchpool. nobody else fulfills all three of those requirements)

And again this just ignores the entire game.

The only criterion that you just listed that arguably doesn’t apply to GL or myself is the “push back” factor, and Mylo has developed a very effective “well if I must be the lynch let it be for the greater good” tactic that smacks of scum who has found a good, non-aggressive refrain that got people off his back when he’s reached lynching point.

[Green Crayons]

Like, to claim that everyone in the game is playing with their eyes closed to Mylo, you’re closing your eyes to the entirety of mylo’s play.

I’m not looking for a “win,” or whatever, I’m looking for you to reevaluate your POE that is ignoring Mylo and landing on me.

[Green Crayons]

Forgive me if I've asked this before (I have a feeling like I have), but why is SS a confirmed town slot? We're obviously not lynching him, he wasn't on the dave wagon and he has had overall solid play but why is he never even discussed as a scum option?

Why are you just asking three questions?

Really?

[Myloninja13]

I don't think they're saying that's a townish thing to do, but it means I'm an easier target because if someone is suspicious of me, I just accept it. I almost always agree with the reasons that players give for me being suspicious, and in the rare case I don't I'll mention it. If someone targeted you or GL, you'd retaliate and shine a light on the player.

[Green Crayons]

Three = these

[Myloninja13]

Forgive me if I've asked this before (I have a feeling like I have), but why is SS a confirmed town slot? We're obviously not lynching him, he wasn't on the dave wagon and he has had overall solid play but why is he never even discussed as a scum option?

Why are you just asking three questions?

Really?

Do you want me to make up questions lol?

[Myloninja13]

Oh, never mind. And I remember thinking of asking it before, but I can't remember if I posted it.

[Green Crayons]

I’m curious why you are looking for people to voice suspicions about a not dave-wagon pool candidate who you admit looks pretty town.

[Myloninja13]

I’m curious why you are looking for people to voice suspicions about a not dave-wagon pool candidate who you admit looks pretty town.

Did you not read what I said? I said we

weren't

lynching SS. I'm not shining suspicion on him, I just wanted to see why he was confirmed town.

Why are you reaching for reasons to make me more suspicious?

[Green Crayons]

I did read what you wrote.

So you were asking for suspicions on a player who is not a today lynch candidate.


I’m still waiting to hear your explanation for why.

[Myloninja13]

I did read what you wrote.

So you were asking for suspicions on a player who is not a today lynch candidate.


I’m still waiting to hear your explanation for why.

I was not asking for suspicion on him. I asked why he was lock town. I'm not expecting MathDino to suddenly say "Hey, maybe he's scum!". I'm just asking for the reason so I can see if I agree with why.

GC, I really don't know why this is the angle you wanted to attack me at. I have over a hundred suspicious posts and you focus on asking a

question

?

[Green Crayons]

This is the here and now. I’m responding to what you’re posting.

You already stated in your 1558 post reasons why you read SS as town. How was someone going to give you those reasons going to help you or the town?

[Green Crayons]

Also in what context were you looking at SS? I’m struggling to understand your motivation in soliciting input on outside the dave lynch pool.

[Kmd4390]

Got prodded. Was v/la over the weekend. Going to bed. Will try to catch up later.

[Mathdino]

Kop's scum meta is bussing and suspecting his teammates. His town meta has no such accuracy.

VOTE: GC

I really think it's more likely GC than Mylo, guys. They could be scum together sure but on the premise that one and only one of them is scum, I think GC is a better lynch.

Those of you who wanna vote Mylo, you should look over the scum meta he provided. His range doesn't seem THAT impressive.

Those of you who wanna vote GL, that's again dependent on a very particular GL/verydark theory, which I don't really think holds a lot of equity rn.

Lynch GC and blame Mathdino if it's town.

[Mathdino]

Mylo, get the fuck on GC. We have a lynch with {Ank, Math, GL, Mylo}.

forcing survivalistic votes out of 2 people does kind of fuck up VCA but whatever we have 3 days