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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:54 am

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We really need some input from Love/GL also. I'll be very frustrated if they do not return before day end.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:37 am

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@BuJaber/CheekyTeeky, any objections to lynching Ank today?
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:39 am

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No objections but I'd prefer to wait for GL/Love input before we wagon up. Further I would prefer Bu because I know he's wiggling out of the noose tomorrow.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:41 am

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I'm happy to wait for their input but you're pretty much guaranteed to be alive tomorrow so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:42 am

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Yeah it is an issue that wr have to relive all this again tomorrow and with Ico/two inactive slots. Fml.
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:58 am

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You realize that lynching me isn't exactly a good idea in your shoes, right Cheeky?
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:03 pm

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Tell me what the best idea is then? I've said I want Bu and given very solid evidence and yet people are refusing to listen. Bu has clearly implicated you as scum and yet does nothing to push you.

Rather than telling me I have bad ideas, I'd appreciate a way to town read you as you're making little sense also.
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:06 pm

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Idk

I'm not really sure how to stop town from losing this game, honestly. Just the fact that both conftown now are scumreading me for really bizarre reasons is about enough to destroy any chance I have to influence a BuJaber lynch.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:08 pm

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As annoying as this is, lynching Love might be the only chance for a town win despite being a likely town lynch.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:25 pm

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Ok in this game we have 7 players. 2 are now conf-town which leaves

GreenLiquid
Lovebird
Ankamius
BuJaber
CheekyTeeky

As potential scum.

GreenLiquid seems to have a universal town read, which is interesting because BuJaber tunneled him pretty hard and just stopped and is now basically treating him as conf. town "GL will have to choose between me and Cheeky (at lylo)"

Lovebird - I don't see Love saying she still thinks Ico is scum after a doc claim from Ico, as scum. I've also just had the same gut feeling like I did with NM that scum are pushing the wagon. This is reinforced by my earlier logic of Love likely being town on a Bu scumflip.

Ankamius was Korina was Christopher - I SR Chris --> was distracted by Rask --> PoEd Chris likely town from ZZZX/Rask scum team (oh lol). D2 Korina came in pushing me hard and with literally no reads that had substance. I think based on the Korina push alone I am not likely buddies with the Ank slot. Ank now looks like they're trying to find an out instead of solving the game.

BuJaber I've given plenty of reasons on and only seems to make sense as scum with Ank.

CheekyTeeky obviously I know I'm town.

From my point of view the only teams that make sense now are:

BuJaber/Ankamius
GL/Lovebird

And GL/Lovebird feels very unlikely. If I'm 100% wrong on BuJaber then that is the team but I know I've effectively thrown the game if that's the case...which I would not do intentionally or take lightly.
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:28 pm

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I'm trying to find an out by... pushing my scum partner?
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:41 pm

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In post 1235, Ankamius wrote:I'm trying to find an out by... pushing my scum partner?
You mean the "noone is going to listen to me on a Rask Lynch" after the "why are people scum reading Love she's the towniest person here" to "Maybe we should lynch love"
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:41 pm

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Er BuJaber not Rask**
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:42 pm

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Oh my god.

Does nobody here look at why people do things?
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 1233, Ankamius wrote:As annoying as this is, lynching Love might be the only chance for a town win despite being a likely town lynch.
How does lynching townie increase the chances of a town win? You'll still be alive and suspected tomorrow. BuJaber tried to set it up as you getting lynched on a Lovebird townflip.
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 pm

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In post 1239, BlackVoid wrote:
In post 1233, Ankamius wrote:As annoying as this is, lynching Love might be the only chance for a town win despite being a likely town lynch.
How does lynching townie increase the chances of a town win? You'll still be alive and suspected tomorrow. BuJaber tried to set it up as you getting lynched on a Lovebird townflip.
Because there's only two people willing to vote for BuJaber today, there is no time to sway people, and if nothing happens, I will be lynched today and BuJaber will be home free to coast to an easy endgame.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:51 pm

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You and Cheeky are the two people willing to vote BuJaber, one of whom according to you is his partner.

I'll be here all the way to deadline tomorrow (except when I need to sleep) so feel free to sway me while I comb through the game again.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:52 pm

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@Cheeky/Ankamius, could you both explain exactly why GreenLiquid is your strongest townread?
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:53 pm

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In post 1200, Ankamius wrote:I'm caught up.

I'm not 100% set on BuJaber/Cheekyteeky but it's much more likely than either being scum with Lovebird for me. I'm satisfied with GreenLiquid from our 1v1 and am mainly waiting to see if he can provide anything that might change things.

BuJaber is like 99% scum, though.
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:55 pm

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That was originally to prove I'm willing to have my mind changed on the team, but that answers the question too.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:55 pm

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That's not an explanation. I assume you are talking about , , and . What about those posts did you find to be townie?
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:56 pm

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Lmfao if love is scum and the team is Love/GL since they seem to be avoiding the thread.

BV can you objectively double check GL as conf town? I feel like I'm losing my mind but I think Anks PoV on lynching Love only makes sense if Ank is town - she wouldn't push that line of reasoning as scum would she?
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:01 pm

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In post 1245, BlackVoid wrote:That's not an explanation. I assume you are talking about , , and . What about those posts did you find to be townie?
You're not going to be satisfied with it, it's the same type of reasoning as before; the rebuttal felt like it came through naturally rather than reasoning forced into the conclusion.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:28 pm

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Hmm just reread GL. I can't really fault the guy except his behaviour around NM byt he's ticking all the town boxes otherwise. If GL is scum he deserves the win tbh.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

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Love/Ank is starting to look like it makes sense if we can see Love voting Korina as distancing after pressure, particularly if you take her saying "Korina is a mislynch" a couple of times eariler in the day in response to Bu thinking one of the two are scum. Occams razor says Bu/Ank makes sense while Love/Ank can make sense too if you reread Love's ISO and notice her lack of real interactions with the Chris/Korina/Ank slot.

Ank is the common scum read so is very likely the optimal lynch for today with highest scum equity.

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