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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:36 pm

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In post 1297, BuJaber wrote:If someone can help me eliminate love/Gl and ank/GL as a team then this game becomes really easy.
Well, GL came through to lynch Ank when a Cheeky lynch was a possibility which eliminates Ank/GL.

GL spent most of the game pushing Lovebird. See Iconeum's post where he townreads GL for pushing Lovebird.

It's actually GL/Cheeky I worry about the most in the back of my mind but I can't see either of them individually as scum.
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:39 pm

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I don't agree with you that cheeky is coming off as genuine. It feels like she has an agenda and a strategy.

Okay Ank then love then cheeky works though. And if cheeky/GL is the team we lose. I don't see it based on how cheeky played but I mean well done if it is.

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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:39 pm

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Assuming ank/love isn't the team of course. I think ank/cheeky is more likely.
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:42 pm

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In post 1301, BuJaber wrote:I don't agree with you that cheeky is coming off as genuine. It feels like she has an agenda and a strategy.
You really think scum would get so pissed off that they'd tell me not to join games with them just because I caught them? It'd be different if someone was being objectively toxic but I don't think I said anything at all that crossed the line. I just tried to lynch her.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:43 pm

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Intent to hammer ank as well. Not much time to comment today.
Ank and cheeky
Or
Cheekh and love
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:46 pm

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In post 1304, Iconeum wrote:Intent to hammer ank as well. Not much time to comment today.
Ank and cheeky
Or
Cheekh and love
Both these teams are plausible, yeah. I guess if it's down to Cheeky/GL/BuJaber, I'd recommend lynching Cheeky because I townread the other two more. But I still don't see Cheeky as scum.

Could it be Lovebird/GL. How confident are you that GL's Lovebird push wasn't a bus?
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:47 pm

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Ico let BV write his post for GL first.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:49 pm

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Between Lovebird and Ankamius, who do you think is scummier?
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:54 pm

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I think GL calling Ank the voice of reason was a bit too much. Ank really didn't make any sense.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:59 pm

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But cheeky better lynch i thi k. Did nkt like his self vote and hes on both my teams
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:00 pm

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In post 2525, CheekyTeeky wrote:Actually I'm done guys, just lynch me, the tunnel aint gonna stop, then it's between Gamma/Eddie. Well played if it's Eddie.
Bringing up evidence from past Cheeky games for GreenLiquid to consider.

Pedit: I don't know, I'm torn on whether Cheeky's outburst was townie. It seemed genuine but not outside scumrange.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:07 pm

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In post 1303, BlackVoid wrote:
In post 1301, BuJaber wrote:I don't agree with you that cheeky is coming off as genuine. It feels like she has an agenda and a strategy.
You really think scum would get so pissed off that they'd tell me not to join games with them just because I caught them? It'd be different if someone was being objectively toxic but I don't think I said anything at all that crossed the line. I just tried to lynch her.

Honestly I missed that point. But no I'm pretty sure I've seen scum saying that. Was in a game where an SK vs scum went all out in an argument and it pretty much descended into insults and I doubt either of them would play with the other again.

I am not saying cheeky is like that I have no idea what her meta is but there are definitely scum that use the "don't play with me" line.

This is especially true if you are scum and you are trying to imitate your town game. It feels frustrating when you get caught because in your mind you played just like you do as town so it sort of feels like you will be mislynched if you ever play with the same people again and you roll town.

Anyway regarding GL part of why I never townread him except recently by PoE .. is because he is very active with reads but doesn't seem very active with votes and actually trying to get the lynch.

His posts do read like town unsure of himself but he is very non committal to his reads to the point it comes off as scummy.

The vote on ank is the first time all game where I felt that his vote is actually going to get someone lynched.

But he doesn't work as a partner with cheeky I feel.
So I guess if we lynch ank and she's scum then lynch love and she flips town then at lylo I'll have to decide whether I trust your read on cheeky more than mine or not.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:12 pm

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If ank flips town it definity points to love/cheeky right?
Yeah I don't see ank flipping town but if she does that has to be the team.
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:20 pm

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Yeah, I suppose it does. I wish I could feel more confident on GreenLiquid being town. If he's scum, he's really, really good but in the last game I played with him, he didn't seem like a particularly confident player. I guess that points to him being town because I'd have to assume that he's extra-ordinarily talented to see a scum-GL world.
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:23 pm

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Re-analyzing CheekyTeeky's from D1 because outside of GreenLiquid, she's the one I'm most worried will endgame if we don't lynch her now:

- - kind of a stretch. Why is Christopher's RVS post posturing?
- - don't really agree but plausible.
- - I don't know where the scumread on Chris came from. She's picking out perfectly normal posts and calling them scummy and that's weird.
- - This seems rather overly confident. Feels fake.
- - Where did this Lovebird scumread come from?
- - She's pushing Iconeum pretty hard at this point so why this question to Lovebird coupled with a scumread on her?
- - That was a pretty quick turnaround.

I'll keep posting the rest but I wanted to get this out so people could engage.
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:25 pm

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I'll agree to lynching Ank > Love > Me and let Bu go. I won't end game - if I was right just listen to me next time.
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:28 pm

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But if you truly believe your reads, you'd be throwing the game, wouldn't you? I mean I could buy "lynch me, then lynch BuJaber" as a potential town move but in your scenario, you'd be letting your biggest scumread endgame. And I thought I was avoiding you so there wouldn't be a next time.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:31 pm

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Well I'm calm now. I appreciate the fact I could be wrong and will stop packing a tantrum. Yes he's my scum read but I am not a god and GL will see what I'm writing here and lynch me.
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:32 pm

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I don't mind if you want to flip me now either there is no ulterior motive.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:35 pm

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Both you and BuJaber read town to me and I'm wondering I'm going wrong somewhere or both of you are wrong. I'm really trying to see where each of you is coming from but I can't see your last posts as coming from scum. I can't see your end-of-D1 as coming from scum. I can't see BuJaber being scum with how much he's gamesolved and how much he invested into the game. If I'm wrong on Ank/Lovebird, I have no idea who'd be scum in that scenario.

Who has the most motivation to kill Rask?
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:37 pm

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I think we just roll with it. If it's not Ank/Love then gj gg.
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:41 pm

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- I actually suspected the same thing about Iconeum before I knew he was town so this resonated with me.
- This is actually a GOOD point regarding BuJaber. Unless he's a scum genius, I can't really see him having played this way. Could GL's tunnel be indicative of GL being scum?
- The point about Lovebird is also a good one because I thought Lovebird was town too until I saw what their scumrange is like and it's pretty similar. I just don't understand the Chris scumread.
- Did anything GL said cause you to doubt this read?
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:47 pm

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I think we're good. Pretty confident that between us all we've PoEd it down to Love/Ank.

It explains why I'm not dead because I hard defended Love D1. The fact love hasn't posted is a dead give away too imo.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:50 pm

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Intent to hammer in 1 hour is that long enough BV?
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:51 pm

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UNVOTE:

Let me think on it a bit. Not sure if Lovebird isn't a better lynch. And I want to finish analyzing you/BuJaber for GreenLiquid.

Question for you: Have you ever self-voted as town?

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