Everyone is a Serial Killer X! (Game Over)

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/in.
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I'll see if I can get ETL and Who to come back and join in too.

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Also, I have to respect Aronis less for the duration of this game?

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She's mostly siteflaked, but I have her IRL contact info and I think she has a bit of free time coming up soon.

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Now accepting applications for Team Cyclops. All you have to do is promise not to ever shoot me.

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Only the worst scents.

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Pshh. You can check. My plan is to mislynch whoever isn't around to defend themselves.

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Don't trust it, Brie.

I hear Iconeum is a Serial Killer. They're probably poison cookies.

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Also, lynch all liars. Sely is a robot, thus cannot like coffee.

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So you respect me less than you respect aronis

Also, btw.

You ran a UDrink Marathon game. And that game won you all of my love at the cost of all of my respect. Luckily, Jingle respect is a worthless commodity.

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Jingle is our friend!

By poking fun and making merry our journey won't be half as scary!

And Sely is a robot built by PenguinPower and powered by penguins. She admitted as much years, or possibly even hours, ago in sitechat.

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Some time before the end of the night, I will kill someone who hasn't posted by then.

Actually,
I'll kill someone who's not really active.
So they might have posted but if it's been a while or they just haven't posted much they could be killed.
This is a warning to lurkers. And don't think you'll get away with waiting until right before the deadline to post.
Because I'll be picking a random time to kill and I won't change that kill.

I like you. Would you like to quicklynch an absentee with me tomorrow?

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Can you craft a more compelling tale? Or are you just in this game to fail the turing test?

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Some time before the end of the night, I will kill someone who hasn't posted by then.

Actually,
I'll kill someone who's not really active.
So they might have posted but if it's been a while or they just haven't posted much they could be killed.
This is a warning to lurkers. And don't think you'll get away with waiting until right before the deadline to post.
Because I'll be picking a random time to kill and I won't change that kill.

I like you. Would you like to quicklynch an absentee with me tomorrow?

I am down with this if you're keen

Excellent. Welcome to Team Cyclops new Who.

Now we need to find New piratemollie, New nacho, and New ETL, then shoot piratemollie for being a filthy traitor who shot nacho.

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Oh, weird. I went to change my protect to the worst and was already protecting him.

:shrug:

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Sely can join if she wants. Us ridiculous sitechat trolls need to stick together, even if she is a penguin powered robot.

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VOTE: Realeo

Someone hammer before he posts.

See the first iteration. The goal of team cyclops is to not kill in team cyclops until team cyclops is the only remaining portion of town. None of you are traitors so there's no reason to abandon that philosophy until we've murderlated all the nonbelievers. Until that point, I endorse continuing to whittle at people who will not claim allegiance to team Cyclops to ensure a team cyclops win. (At least if I don't win, a member of my alliance will and all that.)

We can choose to schism or not at a later point, but for tonight, I think we should just all pick one of the people not on the team to murder and someone on the team to protect. Randomly, just to give the filthy monsters who haven't pledged to my flag a chance to pledge to my flag before we kill them. Given the impending realeo lynch (we have majority, lol) we should be able to take most of if not all of the nonbelievers out tonight. Keeping things random means they can't organize to push any specific kill through pretty much guaranteeing they random into the mass of bodies we've presented and keeping the largest number of Team Cyclops members possible alive.

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Legit : Jingle, Selynee, the worst, TheBrie, TesXX

Shootemup: Iconeum, randomidget, Iprobablysuck

After all the nonbelievers in our

cult

cool party of fun people have been

dealt with in a gentle and fair manner

stabbed to death, we should just randomly kill and protect. That way we chip away at our playerlist slowly until we manage a truly random circle kill, ensuring the maximum number of Team Cyclops members win. This also has the benefit of meaning we develop an emotional attachment and comraderie meaning we can have some measure of trust for the prisoner's dilemma at the end, resulting in lower chances of a cross kill screwing us over by letting non Cyclopes into the victory. Death to the non Cyclopes, etc. etc.

FOLLOW ME TO A BLOODY VICTORY OVER PEOPLE WHO WERE RANDOMLY DETERMINED TO BE AGAINST US BY NOT THROWING THEIR NAMES INTO THE RING FAST ENOUGH WHEN THE CLEARLY SUPERIOR ALLIANCE FORMED!

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Should we out our night actions?

The fact that none of the people in the alliance died is a pretty good indicator that the people in the alliance all protected each other and shot outwards. Everyone outside of the alliance should have been shooting into it from an EV standpoint.

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Besides, we have 48 hours to talk at night. Why waste the time to talk during the day?

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Cause you all want me dead?

You're in good company at least.

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Why are we killing Realo? Is it because he lurks?

Cause optimal day strategy in this game is to lynch people unlikely to get shot, but at this point, in the interest of fostering a chance of succeeding in the prisoner's dilemma/random circle kill we really only need to lynch anyone not on Team Cyclops. And we have 5 Team Cyclops members which means we can force any lynch through. Delaying doesn't really do anything.

And Realeo already has 3 votes on him.

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I’ll see if I can improve the plan tonight, but this is my preliminary agreement.

Also, this is no democracy. It’s a shoutocracy. He who shouts the loudest is the loudest

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The... outside?

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I see no glaring flaws with the worst plan.

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

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It's a bit from an RL gamegroup that started ~7 years ago.

I brought it to the site for the first Everyone's an SK and we won (see PF's links).

I figured it'd be a nice tip of the hat to some good buddies I haven't seen in a long time.

Also:

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I thought it was face paint, tbf.

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I have a decently sized post to make this afternoon.

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Oh, and

VOTE: No Lynch

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Jingle and random pls answer my question it's vry important

Ah. You think I'm going to support a schism and build a new team. That's a faulty assumption and therefore your question is irrelevant. On the other hand, I don't particularly mind answering given the irrelevancy of the topic, so skittles are marginally better but candy itself just isn't my cup of tea. I much prefer fruit.

First thing's first, I didn't follow the worst's plan yesterday, but I did so in a way designed to benefit the group.

A circle protect means we all have one protect. If the two outside our group had cross protected, then EVERYONE would be at 1 protect and thus have a supercharged kill, meaning 1-2 of our members should have died.

Instead, I protected the worst, because I thought he was the most likely NK target for both of the outsiders. The worst had the superkill, and no one should have been able to guess that there was an unprotected member of the group. It paid off.

I considered posting all of this yesterday and proposing a plan to counter the issue, but I realized there was a better EV if only one person didn't follow the plan and if no one else brought it up there was a good chance no one else realized the problem.

From there, we need to look at the 3 possibilities from this point:

1: We arrive at the prisoner's dilemma. My entire goal up to this point has been to establish a level of trust between our team so that we can have a reasonable chance of winning a prisoner's dilemma with each other. Remember, the choice isn't whether you win or lose, but rather if the other half of your pair wins or loses. And I think at this point there is enough camaraderie that we can trust each other to have a mutual truce decision.

2: We randomly arrive at a circle kill. This is easily the best result for the most people, in that we have a chance (albeit a small one) of the entire Team Cyclops each choosing a different other member of Team Cyclops to kill. In this case, PF may give us all the joint win, like he did in the first iteration of Everyone's an SK. This is my preferred outcome, and the goal of my plan. Note, the big problem with this is that any attempt to coordinate kills for this end will result in us all dying and losing as a breach of the rules.

3: We arrive at the final three. Of course, here, someone has the chance to choose to die to allow the prisoner's dilemma, but that's stupid. Instead, anyone in this situation should no lynch and kill randomly. Any attempt to lynch one of the three will likely backfire by making the prisoner's dilemma unwinnable for Team Cyclops. Any attempt at kill coordination leads to the same place.

Okay, so the plan.

THE PLAN!

To maximize the chances of a perfect Team Cyclops victory, we should protect in the circle the worst suggested yesterday. This plan supercharges every kill, meaning that none of the protects will matter and every kill made WILL go through. Anything else, and a random everyone dies becomes impossible. Everyone should choose their kill independently, whether by rolling dice or not. We should not discuss those decisions in thread to prevent any accidental kill organization, but it's entirely up to you how you determine who to shoot. If everyone dies, we have a legitimate chance of having EVERY TEAM CYCLOPS MEMBER SHARE THE WIN EQUALLY, which I believe to be a glorious outcome deserving of this mighty game. If not, then the pool of people alive will decrease, making such a feat more likely every night for the remainder of the game. This maximizes everyone's chances of winning.

Random's lynch strategy not only immediately precludes every one of us winning, but just creates a chance wherein we don't trust each other and cannot win the Prisoner's Dilemma, and creating a schism presents the same issue if there isn't a clear winner of the schism, an unlikely prospect with the low numbers teams are likely to have.

Besides, think of the glory if it works!

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Basically, I'm arguing that we should all be playing for personal victory at this point, and that attempting to share the victory is the most likely method of personally winning for each individual player.

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Yuppers. My goal is to win, but my secondary goal is to have as many members of Team Cyclops win with me. And playing towards the second in no way makes the first less likely.

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There's no such thing as a no lunch.

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^confirmed, PF plans to break rules. Bastard game.

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I'm guessing Jingle is

trying

failing to make a joke.

FTFY

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So is this just a Jesus take the gun scenario?

Purty much.

Anyone know any good jokes?

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Eh. Just looking for ways to kill 48 hours before we find out who made it through the night.

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Not really. We have a plan for the end of days. We have enough canned beans to last us at least five minutes, and enough people to fend off at least three starving zombies.

I'm pretty satisfied with the gamestate. Now we just gotta wait.

Of course, there's always room for some quality shitposting.

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Quality here means: a subjective measurement of good or bad. I'm not precluding bad shitposting.

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Given that there's no reason not to start planning as soon as the signups open and we can talk at night, night start just makes sense.

RB being more in line with actual SK play is also true, although being convincing enough town to pull the doc protect is like the best SK play possible.

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Also, gratz Brie and worst. The 'the's took the win in the end.

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2nd law is better.

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VOTE: Pokerface

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Hell yeah. I can’t promise my schedule will support playing, but I’m always down for a poker face game when I have the opportunity.

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I think switching the protect for a roleblock for people targeting you is a good choice, both thematically and strategically. It doesn’t encourage team play to the same extent as the protects do, and adds an element of strategy in that you’re guessing who percieves you to be a threat. Having it be just the one that everyone gets would be fine though, and doesn’t change much about the setup. Maybe run the one you just posted, and then try the roleblock one the iteration after that?

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I could also see an option of letting dead players post in thread (not telling them who shot them of course) to try to encourage the crosskill and confuse game solving if it gets to the point where weveryone just teams up all the time.