Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[CheekyTeeky]

Gooey do you think TBone is scum?

[Firebringer]

does anyone have a reason that isn't undefined paranoia for wanting to lynch reck

cause instead of firebringer's vision of the future where he gets lynched midgame and reck coasts to victory i just see us lynching a decent probably town player and then the game either being abandoned because half the players in it aren't playing it or some fucking terrible mid/endgame where the majority of mutant/arc/hiplop/hyung are still alive and basically impossible to read

Why do you think this is a TvT?

[Gammagooey]

my reasons for voting tbone btw:
-him bringing up me irritating him about making long posts as the very first thing felt weird and snipey when he's said either in this game or another one that he knows people doesn't have to respond to every little thing brought up to them and I dropped talking about it 2 days ago, and felt like he was just saying it to posture and look irritated at me/the game in general (though I don't think this is particularly bad after factoring in that he's also dealing with a real-life emergency)

-The kind of narration he does in his #1252 really doesn't feel like him scumhunting, it feels like condescending commentary on a game he already knows the answers to where the tone is meant to suggest that he's obviously in the right but wants other people to come to his conclusions for him and I think that type of posturing comes from scum more than it does town

-And I think his scum list in #1258 feels generic and bad and I really don't like his description of hyung and arc as null but slightly scummy but I don't think I can really explain why very well. The last sentence at the end with saying no im not manipulative alisae is being manipulative also feels really overdramatic and posture-y.

[Alisae]

Why is mafia so fucking hard

[CheekyTeeky]

Whatever, if Reck’s okay with it I don’t care.

VOTE: Cheeky

Hammer

i wasn't okay with it
it's why i explicitly asked for my iso read before i did anything

pine is scum

Reck, are you a doublevoter?

no, why

firebringer isn't even right about why im bothered by nsg's posting style.
he literally just saw a chance to jump in and try to gain towncred by mediating

most comfortable place for scum to be is mediating between two town who have beef

VOTE: Firebringer

Lmao @ Reck. But seriously I'm posting the same way so kind of unfair to attack NSG for it.

this post is important

VOTE: cheekyteeky

hyung is town

Hey Reck can you explain where your Pine is scum certainty disappeared to?

I was really confused by you TRing Hyung > Wanting to lynch me > Calling Pine scum for derp hammering me > Jumping on Fire > Voting north > Voting me in rapid succession.

It would be nice to know how you feel about Pine, Hyung and NSG now.

[Alisae]

I want to sheep Gamma on T-Bone also considering my prior read on T-Bone was that he was wolfy.
But at the same time I have paranoia that Gamma is adapting his reads to fit the table even though the logic he is presenting is extremely reasonable
I also want to sheep Fire on Reck because I feel like what Fire is saying genuinely makes sense.

Mafia is a fucking hard game

[Brian Skies]

It's only hard because we can't agree on a lynch and half the players aren't even playing.

[Gammagooey]

does anyone have a reason that isn't undefined paranoia for wanting to lynch reck

cause instead of firebringer's vision of the future where he gets lynched midgame and reck coasts to victory i just see us lynching a decent probably town player and then the game either being abandoned because half the players in it aren't playing it or some fucking terrible mid/endgame where the majority of mutant/arc/hiplop/hyung are still alive and basically impossible to read

Why do you think this is a TvT?

I wouldn't be incredibly surprised if I was wrong but I'm not just not scumreading either of you yet. you're being standard firebringer and recks being standard reck. reck doesn't like your playstyle regardless of what your alignment is, you're paranoid or faking paranoia about reck being good at scum for the reason that he is in fact quite good at scum. it doesn't seem like a particularly unusually or interesting thing is happening here.

[Gamma Emerald]

AA9 lurks this is not new information

Eh I recall them flaking from other games in the past lemme go back and check one of those that I remember clearly

[Alisae]

AA9 lurks this is not new information

Eh I recall them flaking from other games in the past lemme go back and check one of those that I remember clearly

WOW GAMMA
THAT IS GOING TO BE SO HELPFUL I BET YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING THAT WILL LITERALLY BLOW EVERYONE’S MINDS OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER

Please shoot me and put me out of my fucking misery just do it

[Firebringer]

wouldn't be incredibly surprised if I was wrong but I'm not just not scumreading either of you yet. you're being standard firebringer and recks being standard reck. reck doesn't like your playstyle regardless of what your alignment is, you're paranoid or faking paranoia about reck being good at scum for the reason that he is in fact quite good at scum. it doesn't seem like a particularly unusually or interesting thing is happening here.

Reck may not like my playstyle but he isn’t voting me for my playstyle here.

Ur arguing that I am paranoid of him, I don’t think I am. I mean I do think he is very good scum . I just am not paranoid of it. I think he is scum for various posts which I don’t think is “standard reck” and are scum mindset from him.

[Gammagooey]

I want to sheep Gamma on T-Bone also considering my prior read on T-Bone was that he was wolfy.
But at the same time I have paranoia that Gamma is adapting his reads to fit the table even though the logic he is presenting is extremely reasonable
I also want to sheep Fire on Reck because I feel like what Fire is saying genuinely makes sense.

Mafia is a fucking hard game

here have a thing i'd say as either alignment

basing your reads on one player on something that another unflipped player is doing is dumb. it's especially dumb on day 1.

like even if you think I'm scum I could theoretically just be bussing tbone here, and if we do manage to lynch a scum today I'd be shocked if there wasn't a busser just given how many players are lurking piles of trash atm.

[Gammagooey]

Ur arguing that I am paranoid of him, I don’t think I am. I mean I do think he is very good scum . I just am not paranoid of it. I think he is scum for various posts which I don’t think is “standard reck” and are scum mindset from him.

what posts

[Alisae]

I want to sheep Gamma on T-Bone also considering my prior read on T-Bone was that he was wolfy.
But at the same time I have paranoia that Gamma is adapting his reads to fit the table even though the logic he is presenting is extremely reasonable
I also want to sheep Fire on Reck because I feel like what Fire is saying genuinely makes sense.

Mafia is a fucking hard game

here have a thing i'd say as either alignment

basing your reads on one player on something that another unflipped player is doing is dumb. it's especially dumb on day 1.

like even if you think I'm scum I could theoretically just be bussing tbone here, and if we do manage to lynch a scum today I'd be shocked if there wasn't a busser just given how many players are lurking piles of trash atm.

ik that too but I don’t see this as a bus you get anything out of because of the timing uggggh hell I don’t think you even need the bus here.

[Firebringer]

tbone is always wishy washy and every win he has ever gotten has been because he got carried so i dont know how to answer your question also meta is trash

Reck makes a meta argument on why he has no read on T-Bone and I think this is done in a way to not hold strong opinion on T-Bone.

nah rolling scum is fun as shit bc i can just troll

Seems like a relaxed troll post but I think reck town wouldn’t say this to hiplop. Or at least not like this.

firebringer isn't even right about why im bothered by nsg's posting style.
he literally just saw a chance to jump in and try to gain towncred by mediating

most comfortable place for scum to be is mediating between two town who have beef

VOTE: Firebringer

This was just reaching in a way to feel like scumhuntingg

This makes a bs claim about what scum would be positioning themselves
Then votes me for it, he also gets wrong what I was doing but that’s kind of irrelevant

[Gammagooey]

@fire-
412 came immediately after cheeky specifically asking reck about tbone being wishy washy and I believe that reck doesn't think he can read tbone at all. like i basically don't even try to read titus anymore because it just feels like noise on top of noise on top of noise with no signal to be found.

450 feels like regular reck

Also think that he believes that scum try to mediate between two town if they can to make themselves look better and he was pre-disposed to pay more attention to you and potentially vote you for minor things b/c he thinks your posting style is mostly intentionally unreadable

[Gamma Emerald]

so AA9 has flaked as town before fyi
I think she's just another serial flaker a la momo

[Gammagooey]

since we've got less than 3 days now btw

people i will help lynch without hesitation: tbone, arc, mutant

[Gamma Emerald]

AA9 seems to be playing exactly like Creature!scum would

[Alisae]

Oh wait we got 3 days left why am I over thinking this.

Yeah replace arc with reck you have my list of people I am ok with roping

[Gamma Emerald]

did that have no impact on your thinking

[Alisae]

requesting official moderator votecount

[CheekyTeeky]

since we've got less than 3 days now btw

people i will help lynch without hesitation: tbone, arc, mutant

The problem is Tbone is being replaced so we can wait for the replacement D2 who will hopefully be easier to read. The other two are low info lynches so I'd probably rather mutant > AA9 tbh.

[Alisae]

did that have no impact on your thinking

You can go back to being muted when I get home

[Gamma Emerald]

well fuck you too