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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:32 pm

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:24 pm

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The upside to not having any picks in the first two rounds is I can ignore absolutely all the draft coverage
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:38 am

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I think the browns will take Darnold or Allen at number 1. I prefer they take Darnold since Allen has some accuracy concerns

Browns should try to take Barkley or Chubb at 4 or trade 4 so they can get Guice and a good defensive player later
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:14 am

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I think they should take Allen since Carson Wentz came from a smaller school and lead the Eagles to the playoffs in his second year. Allen seems to have a similar football IQ to Wentz. Big 5 players have tougher schedules but they also get hit more and are products of QB factories that may or may not be reflective of QBs true talent.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:42 pm

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If Josh Allen is the guy the Browns want, they should probably go Barkley at #1. The Giants are apparently sold on Darnold and will likely take him if he's available (and if not, and Barkley's gone, Chubb). The Jets are rumoured to be enamoured with Baker Mayfield. You'd then be able to get Allen at #4, and you'd have added your QB of the future and a running threat to an offence that has Njoku, Landry and Gordon (assuming he stays clean) at the skill positions and invested in the O-Line last season. That's a potentially really good offence, even if Taylor's starting to begin with. Plus, if someone steals Allen from them, they get saved from the most likely bust of the top QBs in this draft and they end up with choosing from whoever's left of Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen.

My personal theory, based on absolutely nothing, is they take Barkley at #1, trade #4 to someone like the Bills at 12 and pick up Jackson. Jackson's a mobile QB in the mold of Tyrod Taylor, so they'd be able to build an offence around Jackson's skill set without putting him in until they're convinced he's ready. It makes more sense than having the alternative be an immobile QB like the Texans inexplicably went with. Plus, at 12, there'd be less pressure for the QB to start right away a d they can just ride with Taylor until they think he's ready.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:13 am

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Watch the Browns take both Darnold and Mayfield lol
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:28 am

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Am I the only one that thinks Rosen is going to work out the best of the QBs?
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:25 am

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I've heard that a handful of times.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:22 am

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Bella wrote:My personal theory, based on absolutely nothing, is they take Barkley at #1, trade #4 to someone like the Bills at 12 and pick up Jackson. Jackson's a mobile QB in the mold of Tyrod Taylor, so they'd be able to build an offence around Jackson's skill set without putting him in until they're convinced he's ready. It makes more sense than having the alternative be an
immobile QB like the Texans inexplicably went with.
Plus, at 12, there'd be less pressure for the QB to start right away a d they can just ride with Taylor until they think he's ready.
Watson doesn't strike me as being immobile

Rest of what you said sounds fine. I wouldn't mind if the browns went with that. Allen does strike me as the most likely bust among the qbs. I don't think he will bust big time but of all the high draft QBs he has the highest odds of busting. This is why I'd rather Browns took Darnold than risk Allen or everyone else making the picks that allow them Jackson.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:34 am

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In post 27, PokerFace wrote:I think the browns will take Darnold or Allen at number 1. I prefer they take Darnold since Allen has some accuracy concerns

Browns should try to take Barkley or Chubb at 4 or trade 4 so they can get Guice and a good defensive player later
The rumors around the Giants is that they are taking Barkley.

As a Giants fan, I'm not sure I like it, because they need a Marshawn Lynch style Runningback to fix their running game if they don't immediately improve their offensive line. I'm not convinced that Nate Solder is enough
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:35 am

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Allen may be the most likely bust but he also has the most likely upside. There are a lot of quarterbacks out there competing for starting positions and you don't want to waste a top 5 pick on a qb that will be a backup for most of his career or worse.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:39 am

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I am kind of surprised Allen has even supplanted Josh Rosen. I don't follow college football at all, but during the year it was all Darnold v. Rosen, and now Allen got in the mix.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:30 am

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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:33 am

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I don't really watch college football and I'm, not a scout but I've read things that really knock on Allen and some ppl think that the Browns shouldn't take him. Obviously the Browns are going to go with Taylor for atleast this year. I think they take the best QB @ #4.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:43 am

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i think without Wentz, Allen won't be as big a deal as he is
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:50 am

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In post 29, Bella wrote:It makes more sense than having the alternative be an immobile QB like the Texans inexplicably went with.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:46 pm

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In post 33, PokerFace wrote:
Bella wrote:My personal theory, based on absolutely nothing, is they take Barkley at #1, trade #4 to someone like the Bills at 12 and pick up Jackson. Jackson's a mobile QB in the mold of Tyrod Taylor, so they'd be able to build an offence around Jackson's skill set without putting him in until they're convinced he's ready. It makes more sense than having the alternative be an
immobile QB like the Texans inexplicably went with.
Plus, at 12, there'd be less pressure for the QB to start right away a d they can just ride with Taylor until they think he's ready.
Watson doesn't strike me as being immobile
That's the point. He's a very mobile QB. The alternatives on the 2017 Texans roster (Savage, Yates, Heinke, the corpse of Josh Johnson) are not. You can't design a playbook to get the best out of your mobile first round draft pick if you also have to make sure that Tom Savage can run it. Similarly, if you're the Browns, and you have Tyrod Taylor as your starter, then you either gimp Taylor by designing the playbook to ensure that your rookie pocket passer can run the offence in the event that Taylor is hurt/ineffective/loses the job in camp or put the rookie into a situation where you have to cut out plays you've put time and effort into coaching because he doesn't have the necessary skillset to run them. Nobody benefits from that situation.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:55 am

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or you have to do like the Iggles last year. Build up enough of a cushion that you can redesign your playbook during the last 3 weeks of the season

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:09 am

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Who's ready for the Jets to fuck it up and take Josh Allen?
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:25 am

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Drafting Lamarr Jackson over a qb you might have rated higher just because you already have another mobile qb on your roster is so incredibly dumb.

Also drafting a rb number one is never going to make sense financially.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:44 am

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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 43, D3f3nd3r wrote:Who's ready for the Jets to fuck it up and take Josh Allen?
I think they're getting Darnold. It's funny because that's what I predicted in the preseason. But I thought they'd have the number one pick, not the three after trading up from six and still be able to get him.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:24 am

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I’d love to see that but ahahahaha having faith in the Jets
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:42 pm

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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:57 pm

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Last heisman trophy winner to win a super bowl was Charles Woodson from the 1998 draft, the last #1 pick heisman trophy winner to win a super bowl was George Rodgers from 1981. So I don't think this was a great pick from the Browns. They should have gone with Josh Allen.

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