Open 716: Making Friends and Enemies [Game Over]

[brassherald]

- brass-scum hardbussing both his buddies D1 and D2? no he doesn't think he's that good, even if I do.

<3

[Mathdino]

meh i mean i've been townreading you this whole time so had you hardbussed your buddy mylo it's possible you'd win

but i don't get the impression of you that you're a massive risk taker

your vote on bujaber wasn't risky -- he was competing with verydark who is either your scumbuddy or would make you look awful if you hopped onboard

[Ankamius]

Ok I'm apparently seven pages behind.

Tl;dr me what happened up to now.

[GuiltyLion]

I got hammered - have suggested lynching Mylo next, Dino flipped out and says that's still stupid despite the fact that I'm now conftown, we argue about it for 7 pages

that's basically it

[Alisae]

Ok I'm apparently seven pages behind.

Tl;dr me what happened up to now.

Brass hammered GL its twilight now

[brassherald]

Ok I'm apparently seven pages behind.

Tl;dr me what happened up to now.

GL is lynched. I made hilarious posts.

[GuiltyLion]

also I kinda doubt scum!brass fucks around in twilight like this, he feels more carefree than I'd expect

he didn't really react at all to the shade I threw at him

[Mathdino]

GL you may be the king of the jungle

but rex still means king

my animal avatar has more teeth

[Mathdino]

also I kinda doubt scum!brass fucks around in twilight like this, he feels more carefree than I'd expect

he didn't really react at all to the shade I threw at him

wow you're really going all-in on bad pre-death reads

GL from my POV who's scum

i'm going to be shocked if it's anything other than brass/GC

[Mathdino]

"math is locktown by play until he makes a mislynch and hard-defends someone who's conftown from his POV"

[Green Crayons]

Prepare to be shocked.

[brassherald]

Don't ever lynch GC. He's conftown by play.

[Mathdino]

i mean i'm going to be shocked if GL tells me anything other than brass/GC

i accept that it's possible that's not reality

but FMPOV that's still by far the most sensible scumteam

it's not like i didn't do any ISOs before making that claim lol

[Ankamius]

lol Math preemptively discredited that even before my flip

Like if mylo is actually scum I think Dino is his partner who is like "fuck it let's go all in."

but that's me just being salty

what

[Green Crayons]

why what?

[GuiltyLion]

GL from my POV who's scum

would you be willing to get lynched yourself if the town refuses to lynch Mylo on your green flip and lynch brass afterwards?

[Green Crayons]

I envision a future GC being very diligent and writing up a list of potential scum buddies with mylo.

Let's see if that vision ever manifests or if I'll get lazy again.

[brassherald]

^^ Ty.

Like, how does this come from scum?

[Ankamius]

I'm starting to understand the brass-scum case now with these twilight posts.

The game is probably over with GC/Alisae/brassherald all being lynched; I still have no interest in humoring Math being scum.

[Ankamius]

Does brass-scum hard-defend his partner like this? That's on the fence between a desperate scumteam and too ballsy to be scummy.

[GuiltyLion]

Spoiler:

I wish I did, but not really other than some of his votes feeling opportunistic.

further, I agree with this and I'm wondering if brass is a better lynch than GC or Mylo. I know some have decided his interactions with BuJaber are unlikely to be a bus, and I occasionally feel this way myself, but everything else he's done this game is fairly safe and scummy. And I don't really see his vote on BuJaber as impossible to be a bus - he entered the game with it, then unvoted, then decided he "wanted back on" and then didn't really push much after that.

He was on the Mylo wagon several times but hasn't shown any interest in pushing it today. And a number of his votes have been all been careful and opportunistic, and often justified by the gamestate rather than the player's play

Recent posts by Green Crayon are pretty okay. Also, Math, in regards to your list of lynches, I really dislike lining up all the lynches beforehand in any order. We need to be able to adjust to new information. I will not be following some preset list of lynches for you.

I'm also a bit curious as to why Mylo came in, said he talks more day 2 and says nothing else other than go with the idea that never gets him hanged. My vote looks good there while I drink my coffee this morning.

VOTE: Mylo

The "my vote looks good there while I drink my coffee this morning" feels awkward and over-explainy

VOTE: davesaz

The case here seems good, and the Mylo wagon is totally stalled.

GC already pointed out that the "Mylo wagon" wasn't really stalled, just slow developing. It was still the leading wagon.

Well, with a vote count, I'm willing to switch over. That fake town tell is something I have only seem scum do.

VOTE: Gamma L-1 for reals.

The "fake town tell" was enough to L-1 his prior townread Gamma, despite the fact that other players (both Mylo and myself) had said it looked like a town reaction?

Okay, looking at Math's scum game, I'm willing to say this is closer to a town play for him than a scum play. He is good as scum as well, but I see enough differences to give leeway to him. Also, I'm not sure that scum would commit so fully to continually telling us how many mislynches we have. That just feels more towny than anything else. I guess for now I am willing to follow him while his reads at least partially align with mine anyway. I don't think GC is scum, I believe I explained that Day 2, so, a Mylo lynch today for me if I'm following Dino's lynch pool.

VOTE: Mylo

I called this out earlier:

I agree that brass' interactions around BuJaber were decent but he feels stiff and careful in a lot of his posts/votes. like 1401 feels like a really careful post

This game is stagnant. I want to end the day because right now we are going nowhere to that end

VOTE: GuiltyLion

^justifying his vote with the game being "stagnant" rather than me being likely scum

here's my brass case again

the thing is yeah brass/GC just feels like a really weird team. maybe GC is getting buddied by brass

I guess lynch brass first instead of Mylo if we want, but don't just roll over to GC on a green brass flip.

[Green Crayons]

maybe GC is getting buddied by brass

I mean, did you see this?

^^ Ty.

Like, how does this come from scum?

[brassherald]

maybe GC is getting buddied by brass

I mean, did you see this?

^^ Ty.

Like, how does this come from scum?

I quoted the wrong post, sorry.

[Mathdino]

GL from my POV who's scum

would you be willing to get lynched yourself if the town refuses to lynch Mylo on your green flip and lynch brass afterwards?

this is a dumb enough question that i'm not answering this lol

[brassherald]

You asked if I was serious. How is that not the same thing as asking if it's a joke?

The phrase "are you serious?" does not always mean "is this a literal joke attempt?" It frequently means "I cannot believe I am seeing this."

In the context of mafia, using that phrase and quoting your post was prodding you to explain the problems with 875, which I think are apparent and which kmd and myself have identified.

I meant to quote this one.