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Post Post #3650 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:17 am

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Post Post #3651 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:18 am

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In post 3649, Creature wrote:The problem is that we have 3 scum dead
And not, like, 5 scum dead? Yeah, that's a problem.

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Post Post #3652 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:20 am

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There are probably two deeplosers on the loose.
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Post Post #3653 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:20 am

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Post Post #3654 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:21 am

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In post 3652, Creature wrote:There are probably two deeplosers on the loose.
Don't worry, Our Beloved Saviour And Confirmed IC, Gorkington, is on the case.

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Post Post #3655 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:24 am

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Post Post #3656 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:29 am

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In post 3644, Hopkirk wrote:Pan being scum is not possible any more.
Why not?
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Post Post #3657 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:31 am

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I would like to lynch from this list: Nero Cain(229), Creature(298), Hopkirk(204), Tchill13(97), CheekyTeeky(163), Chickadee(414) Beeboy(87), randomidget(190)

I'd really, REALLY like to vote one of these three:
In post 3579, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: GreyIce Let's go. It's 2am here so glgl us. Brian put your vote on Grey instead of unvoting.
In post 3580, Brian Skies wrote:Yeah sure.

VOTE: GreyIce
In post 3581, Chickadee wrote:VOTE: GreyICE
Why is Brian Skies town again?
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Post Post #3658 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:32 am

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I played resistance last night.
Didn't really want to play.
but
I said I'm not looking at my card. Everyone blew me off except one person. He made a big deal about it. I called him out as scum. He was scum.


Kind of funny i see it here in this iso.
Screen talking about Pan.
Unless Screen had some other explination, which I assume he would have said since i think i said I'd vote him if he couldn't explain it.
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Post Post #3659 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:33 am

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Hmm.

Actually.

Vote: Cheeky


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Post Post #3660 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:35 am

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Cheeky I'd lynch.
Chick I should reread interactions.
Brian's switch from you to Screen changing majority was a good point for town.
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Post Post #3661 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:35 am

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VOTE: Cheeky

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Post Post #3662 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:36 am

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In post 3658, Hopkirk wrote:
I played resistance last night.
Didn't really want to play.
but
I said I'm not looking at my card. Everyone blew me off except one person. He made a big deal about it. I called him out as scum. He was scum.


Kind of funny i see it here in this iso.
Screen talking about Pan.
Unless Screen had some other explination, which I assume he would have said since i think i said I'd vote him if he couldn't explain it.
He did explain it. What about it was a scumtell? If you thought it was a scumtell, why not pursue this over Grey?
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Post Post #3663 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:37 am

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In post 3657, GreyICE wrote:I would like to lynch from this list: Nero Cain(229), Creature(298), Hopkirk(204), Tchill13(97), CheekyTeeky(163), Chickadee(414) Beeboy(87), randomidget(190)
Not thrilled by the Nero, Tchill, Chickadee or randommidget names there.
Currently have Creature, Cheeky, and Beeboy all as various soft levels of town also.
Hopkirk is a big pile of 'meh' right now.
Is that your entire wagon at peak?
Suggests one of my reads is bad, or at least that I have a soft town lean on a scummer.
In post 3657, GreyICE wrote:Why is Brian Skies town again?
For starters MariaR tried to push a really sketchy case on him out of the gate.
Also, he was at least guardedly helpful with the Srceen push.
Seems worth letting live today still.
In post 3658, Hopkirk wrote:
I played resistance last night.
Didn't really want to play.
but
I said I'm not looking at my card. Everyone blew me off except one person. He made a big deal about it. I called him out as scum. He was scum.


Kind of funny i see it here in this iso.
Screen talking about Pan.
Unless Screen had some other explination, which I assume he would have said since i think i said I'd vote him if he couldn't explain it.
Walk me through it like a dunce.
Because I'm not getting it.
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Post Post #3664 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:38 am

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In post 3663, Thor665 wrote:For starters MariaR tried to push a really sketchy case on him out of the gate.
I don't remember this.
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Post Post #3665 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:42 am

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In post 3506, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 3448, Thor665 wrote:My bad, for some reason I thought you were posting again and again attacking Hopkirk and making a case on him distracting us all while the Grey wagon builds steam and the Srceen one dies.
I feel like I've made it abundantly clear that I want to lynch srceen.

Also, yes, I'm attacking Hop because I'm questioning his motives. Let's say you're right on both your Grey and srceen reads. Do you have any way of figuring out if Hop is protecting a buddy to survive at least to the night phase while setting him up for a bus down the road? I honestly have no idea how I would be able to make this distinction unless I challenged him on it as it happens, as if I wait until tomorrow to do So, he can just go 'well I was scumreading him yesterday, why not just ask me yesterday?' or some variation thereof.
I feel like brian sounded town after reading this bit, like it really resonated with me
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Post Post #3666 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:45 am

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In post 3663, Thor665 wrote:
In post 3658, Hopkirk wrote:
Screen talking about Pan.
Unless Screen had some other explination, which I assume he would have said since i think i said I'd vote him if he couldn't explain it.
Walk me through it like a dunce.
Because I'm not getting it.
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Post Post #3667 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:48 am

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In post 330, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 182, Quick wrote:
In post 178, beeboy wrote:
In post 155, Quick wrote:Not at all. I'm not reading through that shit.
I mean whats the reason for your vote then?
And why are you choosing to just ignore all this games content and just complaining about the lack of it.
You saw me do the exact same thing before when I was Town so I'm really not sure why you have a problem with it???

I voted who I thought was the "leader" of the Scum faction.
This post seals them as scum for me.
quick's slot can't be scum based off of this interaction alone

it's srceen's first serious read/vote settling into the game, it can't be on his buddy
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Post Post #3668 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:49 am

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In post 3576, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 3574, Brian Skies wrote:rceen, can you respond to these:
In post 3321, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3210, Srceenplay wrote:
I played resistance last night.
Didn't really want to play.
but
I said I'm not looking at my card. Everyone blew me off except one person. He made a big deal about it. I called him out as scum. He was scum.


There's a pretty central mechanic that impossible if you mean what you sound like you mean. Please explain in your next post how you could play resistance without looking at your card.

Part of the way to win is to make others believe you are town. So it doesn’t matter if what your card says per say. Just play as town. Your team would still be playing to their win con. They would also know who you are by deduction.
In the simplest terms, Resistance involves two phases.
1.) Picking people to go on missions/voting on these.
2.) Going on missions.
Scum wins by failing 3/5 missions, town by passing 3/5.
Scum can put in a pass or fail during the mission, town must put in a pass.
It isn't possible to play without knowing your role as town must put in a pass card. Scum cannot win without knowing they are scum.
It's different to mafia in that regard.
Screen missed the vital aspect of the game that makes it impossible not view your role card.
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Post Post #3669 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:50 am

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In post 360, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 349, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: screenplay

terrible ISO
Happy to lynch you tomorrow
In post 361, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 351, Creature wrote:VOTE: Srceenplay
You can just stop.
In post 434, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 390, Brigand Vvulf wrote:VOTE: screenplay
In post 394, Brigand Vvulf wrote:crazy theory: grey is scum :!:
series of bad posts. If we apply the 1 in 3 rule? creature is scum here
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Post Post #3670 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:53 am

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In post 3662, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 3658, Hopkirk wrote:
I played resistance last night.
Didn't really want to play.
but
I said I'm not looking at my card. Everyone blew me off except one person. He made a big deal about it. I called him out as scum. He was scum.


Kind of funny i see it here in this iso.
Screen talking about Pan.
Unless Screen had some other explination, which I assume he would have said since i think i said I'd vote him if he couldn't explain it.
He did explain it. What about it was a scumtell? If you thought it was a scumtell, why not pursue this over Grey?
Grey seemed legitimately scummy.
Screen was a lynchpool lurker with two small things I liked. Would have been ok with the lynch if a harder scummy player wasn't lynchable.
Other reads I had based on associations made Grey more likely than Screen.
Screen scum/Grey scum give competing views of the game.
I intended to switch to Screen if he didn't answer me, or if he answered badly on that point. He was hammered by the time I got online next.
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Post Post #3671 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:54 am

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Oh Chick is Quick, I got that mixed up. She's town.
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Post Post #3672 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:54 am

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In post 3668, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3576, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 3574, Brian Skies wrote:rceen, can you respond to these:
In post 3321, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 3210, Srceenplay wrote:
I played resistance last night.
Didn't really want to play.
but
I said I'm not looking at my card. Everyone blew me off except one person. He made a big deal about it. I called him out as scum. He was scum.


There's a pretty central mechanic that impossible if you mean what you sound like you mean. Please explain in your next post how you could play resistance without looking at your card.

Part of the way to win is to make others believe you are town. So it doesn’t matter if what your card says per say. Just play as town. Your team would still be playing to their win con. They would also know who you are by deduction.
In the simplest terms, Resistance involves two phases.
1.) Picking people to go on missions/voting on these.
2.) Going on missions.
Scum wins by failing 3/5 missions, town by passing 3/5.
Scum can put in a pass or fail during the mission, town must put in a pass.
It isn't possible to play without knowing your role as town must put in a pass card. Scum cannot win without knowing they are scum.
It's different to mafia in that regard.
Screen missed the vital aspect of the game that makes it impossible not view your role card.
I actually watched a video on the games rules after he responded to me. And I got the feeling that while it would not be helpful if he were indeed scum, there were no rules against it and it would just put more pressure on his partner to carry him.

What was it's relevance to this game? I don't see how him recounting a past experience was alignment indicative to this game here. Unless you just thought he was lying, in which case, still could have voted Srceen.

Still didn't explain why you chose to pursue Grey over this scumtell.
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Post Post #3673 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:56 am

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Oh wait nevermind you did.
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Post Post #3674 (ISO) » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:56 am

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In post 3664, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 3663, Thor665 wrote:For starters MariaR tried to push a really sketchy case on him out of the gate.
I don't remember this.
Sorry, Ausuka.
In post 3668, Hopkirk wrote:In the simplest terms, Resistance involves two phases.
1.) Picking people to go on missions/voting on these.
2.) Going on missions.
Scum wins by failing 3/5 missions, town by passing 3/5.
Scum can put in a pass or fail during the mission, town must put in a pass.
It isn't possible to play without knowing your role as town must put in a pass card. Scum cannot win without knowing they are scum.
It's different to mafia in that regard.
Screen missed the vital aspect of the game that makes it impossible not view your role card.
Got it - he showed that either he was lying about playing a game or plays a game incorrectly.
How was that a scum slip in this game though?

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