Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

[Nero Cain]

Brian Skies

[Brian Skies]

I'm offended. I've been like the opposite of useless.

You're probably closer to useless than I am.

[Nero Cain]

I wasn't being serious, obv but I mean I feel like your reaction is a bit defensive.

I bet you can't tell me anything Cheeky or Beeboy have done this game (without an ISO read) and I'm not at all sure why you'd challenge that bee and cheeky haven't been useless.

[Brian Skies]

I'm incredibly disappointed by this playerlist because I feel like Hopkirk's jump onto the Grey wagon was a blatant scumvote.

If you believe in the lipservice he gave you today about the reasoning for his 'scumtell' being a valid reason to scumread Srceenplay, then you should also believe he had every reason to vote Srceen yesterday and not Grey. The nonsense he gave about being given two differing views of the gamestate regarding Grey-scum and Srceen-scum is just that, nonsense, and it's not like he gave any definitive reasoning to believe Grey's scum or that he was a better wagon. It still just feels like him looking for an excuse to push the Grey wagon and keep Srceen alive to the next Night Phase while keeping himself open to picking up towncred if he flips scum or bussing Srceen today if he was still alive to get wagoned.

I wish I had more to go off of, and I probably would have if Thor hadn't so rudely interrupted my push on him.

Like, Hopkirk literally sets up his scumread on Srceen in one post and votes Srceen's counterwagon in the next one.

Also, I straight up told Hopkirk that if he was calling Hopkirk a liar that he should just vote him here. But it's not like anyone in this game reads my posts or listens to me, so...

Anyone who townreads Hopkirk is bad and should feel bad.

[Brian Skies]

I wasn't being serious, obv but I mean I feel like your reaction is a bit defensive.

I bet you can't tell me anything Cheeky or Beeboy have done this game (without an ISO read) and I'm not at all sure why you'd challenge that bee and cheeky haven't been useless.

I already knew you were probably joking.

You're right I couldn't. I actually had to iso them. But why does that make them a good wagon?

I don't think Cheeky is scummy. I'm not really opposed to a Beeboy wagon, since I feel like he's kind of disappeared after his Quick push, but I don't really think the Quick push was scummy.

[Nero Cain]

But why does that make them a good wagon?

b/c lurking and being useless is a half-way decent scum strat. Although slight nitpick, you weren't asking what made them a good wagon. You asked how they were useless.

[Brian Skies]

But why does that make them a good wagon?

b/c lurking and being useless is a half-way decent scum strat. Although slight nitpick, you weren't asking what made them a good wagon. You asked how they were useless.

I can still ask other questions.

[Brian Skies]

I also wouldn't really consider Cheeky a lurker.

Even if I did, what makes one lurker more likely to flip scum than the small handful of other players that are seemingly just sheeping or w/e.

[Nero Cain]

I don't think I ever made that argument. Pls stop putting words into my mouth.

[Brian Skies]

I'm not saying this is what you said. I'm asking the question.

[Nero Cain]

It doesn't but I don't there's any reason to not lynch a useless lurker.

[Brian Skies]

I like lynching scum.

Who're your scumreads?

[Nero Cain]

1. randomidget
3. Beeboy
7. CheekyTeeky
8. Hopkirk
9. Chickadee
11. GreyICE
12. Panopticon (Varsoon and Tn5421)
20. Brian Skies

I think the last 2 scum are in.

[Brian Skies]

You're scumreading me? Why?

Also, if you think Hop is scummy, why not talk to me about that read or join my wagon? Thor isn't really pushing a scumread, so you shouldn't feel obligated to sheep him right now.

Is there any particular reason for the others? Or do they mostly fall into the useless or lurky category for you?

[Brigand Vvulf]

I think the low activity levels are largely attributed to the fact that town victory is a inevitability and not a remote possibility at this point. I mean wouldn't you think so too? Does anyone see a world where we reach LyLo? Not saying I endorse this behavior, because scum would

love

to lurk it out, but I don't even think town can lose to dumb luck or divine miracle right now due to sheer mathematical probabilities.

In chess terms, we've reached a winning position against our opponent. How we win is a matter of technique. Let's not stall unnecessarily.

[Thor665]

Scum victory is inevitable if town starts thinking derpy like that

Town victory is statistically more likely currently. But slips, cups, and lips, as they say.

[Panopticon]

Subject: Ban/Restriction Announcements

Mulch

has been banned for a year at his request.

Associated accounts:

ThreeStrong

Interschedule

Wrangle

ShotsTaken

FireHedgehog

Fissure

Mafia Gunner

Town Gunner

What. The. Fuck.

[Creature]

Well, this still should count as a town win.

[Creature]

We were about to lynch another scum.

[Thor665]

Northsidegal literally just said she'd still be running the game.

[Panopticon]

Northsidegal literally just said she'd still be running the game.

Still doesn't mean it isn't shitty. I hope Mulch gets knocked down to 0 games of experience for this shit.

[the worst]

Dude play the game

[Creature]

Oh btw, I'm pretty confident on the beeboy wagon.

[Panopticon]

My vote is on the wagon I want it to be on and it's not leaving it for a random lurker lynch.

[the worst]

Good for you

Thoughts on the wagon anyway?