Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[OnTheMark]

Yeah not letting this go.

I’m the Town Tracker. Crumbed in the first letter of each sentence of 507. Tried to track Grey last night and got No Result which I confirmed with the Mod is not a Went Nowhere result. Which is why I was leaning heavily to there being a blocker.

No way both a full Tracker and Loyal Motion Detector are both Town when we already have a flipped Goon.

Happy for today to be me versus Flavor.

[OnTheMark]

So this means MoI if town was roleblocked or Grey is ascetic.

Do you agree with this point?

[StefanB]

I can say my role and MoIs role both beeing town, is quite posible.
I didn't belive for a second a informationrole like Flavor was claiming could be in the game.

P-Edit: Yes I agree with that.

[OnTheMark]

Okay then with Grey being ascetic (which is a scum claim as if he is he didn’t claim it) tell me why GreyICE is not further pushed right now?

[OnTheMark]

The alternative is MOI was roleblocked or he is scum.

What if Grey is ascetic and there is no roleblocker and that’s why MoI wasn’t blocked day two?

[OnTheMark]

It also makes sense with what I see in voting patterns with his late jump on Cult.

[GreyICE]

My late jump on Cult?

Do tell me more. I really want to see the reasoning behind this one.

[OnTheMark]

Is she in your QT, Stefan?

Looking over Grey’s ISO apparently you have a QT(odd not a PT) this game? Who is in it?

[StefanB]

Because the idea that he is ascetic just came into the play now.
I don't know what I think about it.
And basicly Grey is one of the most influencal players at the moment.
And the buss was strong, if it was one.

P-edit: Grey was the first one on Cult, after Hoopla voted elsewhere and the waggon had died? What do you mean with late jump?

And that was clearly a question that was meaned to implie I was scum.

[OnTheMark]

Okay, fuck it. If I were to write a textbook on lurker scum it'd probably look like this. At least Stefan is trying, and I respect that.

Vote: CultofAthena

@Grey ICE here is where you vote Athena. There were other votes if memory serves for Flavor and Stephan as well. Do you claim to be ascetic?

[Hiraki]

They really just don't read, do they Grey?

[GreyICE]

Yeah, I've got to give this newbie low marks for... practically everything.

[GreyICE]

It feels like their roleblocker fucked up and forgot to submit the action last night and now someone's trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

[OnTheMark]

Because the idea that he is ascetic just came into the play now.
I don't know what I think about it.
And basicly Grey is one of the most influencal players at the moment.
And the buss was strong, if it was one.

P-edit: Grey was the first one on Cult, after Hoopla voted elsewhere and the waggon had died? What do you mean with late jump?

And that was clearly a question that was meaned to implie I was scum.

Why? All possibilities must be explored. Then the most likely found.

Are you legit telling me that through all of this people went “okay so and so said it, it must be true”.

Grey may have been first but his voting patterns and pushes were mainly elsewhere and he hopped on at the end. It’s a typical scum move to scumread a buddy but push them badly.

[OnTheMark]

It feels like their roleblocker fucked up and forgot to submit the action last night and now someone's trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Uhm...in games I have seen scum submit actions in a PT.

How would they remember a kill and forget a block?

That seems weird. *raised eyebrow*

[OnTheMark]

Yeah, I've got to give this newbie low marks for... practically everything.

@Grey and Hiraki

Show me where I am wrong then and help me improve

Because right now on one hand

I see scum remembering a kill but forgetting a block, which I find highly unlikely or Grey is ascetic or MOI is scum.

If you’re arguing something else show me why.

[GreyICE]

One player was active and one player wasn't? Seems simple enough to me. Or who the fuck knows? If you want to tell me the logic they used, go right ahead.

If you want to rolefish further, you can have that I'd claim Ascetic post 1 regardless of alignment if it was my role. Unfortunately my role wasn't quite so exciting, not that I haven't had a good run as some flavor of miller.

[GreyICE]

As for where you're wrong, I started the Cult wagon.

That's why I'm extremely curious as to what fucking game you're reading. Or your claim that you've read the game at all.

[OnTheMark]

One player was active and one player wasn't? Seems simple enough to me. Or who the fuck knows? If you want to tell me the logic they used, go right ahead.

If you want to rolefish further, you can have that I'd claim Ascetic post 1 regardless of alignment if it was my role. Unfortunately my role wasn't quite so exciting, not that I haven't had a good run as some flavor of miller.

How many games have you played on MS?
How many games as scum?
How many games where you have submitted actions for teammates as scum?

[OnTheMark]

As for where you're wrong, I started the Cult wagon.

That's why I'm extremely curious as to what fucking game you're reading. Or your claim that you've read the game at all.

Again I addressed that.

Just because you start a wagon is not alignment indicative. What matters is if you follow it through.

And you didn’t. You explored other options, namely Flavor who is town and StefanB tbd.

[Hiraki]

Hey - gotta be honest here - are you trying this new style because you're trying to hide your identity? I'll be honest and say that no one cares (unless you're blacklisted!). These questions seem super awkward and just not helpful.

[GreyICE]

I have no fucking clue
No fucking clue
It's rare to let scumteams submit actions for each other. And trust me, I've downright begged mods to let me submit someone's role action for an inactive teammate.

Like really, why would scum-MOI claim to be blocked N1 and NOT blocked N2? Walk me through that piece of logic.

[GreyICE]

As for where you're wrong, I started the Cult wagon.

That's why I'm extremely curious as to what fucking game you're reading. Or your claim that you've read the game at all.

Again I addressed that.

Just because you start a wagon is not alignment indicative. What matters is if you follow it through.

And you didn’t. You explored other options, namely Flavor who is town and StefanB tbd.

Your timing is super badly off there. It was Flavor>Stefan>Flavor>COA.

And if you think fucking Flavor didn't earn his lynch I would love to know what game you're reading.

[OnTheMark]

Hey - gotta be honest here - are you trying this new style because you're trying to hide your identity? I'll be honest and say that no one cares (unless you're blacklisted!). These questions seem super awkward and just not helpful.

No. I am trying to establish GreyICE is scum or full of shit.

On MS it is a site wide standard to let scum buddies submit actions for each other. I will go grab some completed themes to verify/prove it.

I find it highly irregular that Grey someone who says he is not a newb makes this mistake.

[Hiraki]

Ok, so asking someone how many games they've played...?