Mini Normal 2005: Fun With Decimals(game over)

[Morality]

I think dunn is a scum tracker because town tracker dunn would track me given his stance on me imo.

What was my stance on you? I said not to lynch you yesterday...?

I don't believe town you tracks Morality out of all people. Why did you? Just because you say not to lynch me doesn't mean you wouldn't try to figure out my alignment via track

Why did you check Aus over the miller claim?

Piggybacking on this, I’m a Role cop. I didn’t feel the need to confirm the Miller moreso than that.

[Morality]

Cool.

Mora => Maria => xxxx wins the game

Guessing if they both somehow flip town Dunn is the best revisit but I would not revisit until then :s

Gonna lurk out and let more people check in.

Just pointing out, this implies he doesn’t actually think final two scum are in myself and Maria if he expects there to be a 3rd lynch.

[the worst]

It's a game of probabilities not absolutes bro

[Morality]

Also, another thing,

Cop, Vigilante, and Tracker combined can end the game by pure chance on Night 1, bar a ninja.

[Morality]

Actually, that probably leans towards a scum doctor also being in this game to counter vig, give some potential role cop play in there.

[Mumble]

Cool.

Mora => Maria => xxxx wins the game

Guessing if they both somehow flip town Dunn is the best revisit but I would not revisit until then :s

Gonna lurk out and let more people check in.

I agree with this.

[Dunnstral]

I have this nagging feeling that scum Maria doesn't act like this right now and yesterday

[the worst]

What pings you as towny about her actions?
I havent played with town!Maria yet so would like some feedback for sure.

[Ruby Red]

That's a lynch! Flip upcoming.

Vote Count 1.12
Lapsa[7]: Dunnstral, MariaR, Lapsa, Espeonage, Kokichi Oma, Ausuka, Mumble[Lynch!]
Espeonage[2]:Something_Smart, Morality
Kokichi Oma[2]: Ruby Red, the worst
UnabombaH[1]: Zoronos
the worst[1]: UnabombaH

With 13 alive, it requires 7 to lynch
Day ends in 0 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes or when a lynch occurs

Welcome to TwoInAMillion's Mini Normal 2005: Fun With Decimals, Lapsa! You are a

Bulletproof Townie

. You have no night actions, but you may not be killed at night either. You win with the town, and achieve victory when all anti-town players are eliminated from the game, or nothing can stop that from happening. Please confirm via pm that you have read and understand your role pm. The game thread is here., and will begin when 11/13 players have confirmed.

It is now night 1. Night ends in (expired on 2018-05-02 13:22:45).

Ausuka has been shot.

Welcome to TwoInAMillion's Mini Normal 2005: Fun With Decimals, Ausuka! You are a

Town One Shot Cop

. Once per game, as a night action, you may investigate a player and be told if that player is town or not town. You win with the town, and achieve victory when all anti-town players are eliminated from the game, or nothing can stop that from happening. Please confirm that you have read and understand your role pm. The game thread is here., and will begin when 11/13 players have confirmed.

Kokichi Oma has been shot

Welcome to TwoInAMillion's Mini Normal 2005: Fun With Decimals, Kokichi Oma! You are a

Mafia Encryptor

. As long as you are alive, your faction has the ability of daytalk. If you die, the faction loses it's daytalk ability. You win with the mafia, and achieve victory when the mafia outnumber the town, or nothing can stop that from happening. Your mafia partners are Player X and Player Y. You have an encryptor, and will have day talk ability until the encryptor is killed. The mafia thread is located here. Please confirm via pm that you have read and understand your role pm. The game thread is here. and will begin when 11/13 players have confirmed.

FUCK YES

we're sheeping empress ruby now you fucks

[Ruby Red]

@The Worst - what made you decide to go from neutral/not liking Kokichi to voting him at the end after Lapsa was going down?

Don't even try this shit
1) reading more (was p transparent about how little I've read)
2) downreading the shit out of Ruby whose read made a lot of sense--like, 5 times more than most people who scumread Kokichi. That's worth.

Anyway 1 shot vig here claiming Koki kill. Yw ppl xxx

you're a legend, mason bud

saved me from having to fake a guilty

[Zoronos]

A red flip from kokichi means it is more likely that Dunn is town because Kokichi +1'ed Dunn's logic on Ruby way back in early D1. Seems unlikely scum would tie to scum that early. Also increases Ruby-town likelyhood.

Need to re-read to derive more conclusions.

I would agree if Dunn reacted to it but the fact he didn't makes it seem like it could come from partners but hey what do I know

I re-read the sequence, and I agree that this is possibly a thing which happened, but I don't think it's probably a thing that happened.
From my read on that flurry of posting, Kokichi +1'ed the logic but by the time Dunnstral made it back to the thread he got bogged down into a discussion with Ruby on the underlying read and a discussion with you on meta-principles (you wanted him to have a read on you by that point in the game).

He didn't seem to notice Kokichi sheeping him 114 until someone brought it to his attention. Once I showed up to accuse Kokichi of being scummy for agreeing 133 Dunn started arguing with me about the validity of the underlying read. That suggests to me he's more concerned about the substance than he is about kokicihi. I can kinda see the world where he's doing the scum-actively-ignoring-his-partners dance, but I don't think it's likely the world we're playing in.

Actually...hmm... Hey, The Worst -> Una's one read so far was on Mumble. Do you think he was on base with that read, off base, or wrong-but-well-argued?

Well argued but unconvincing?
I don't have a strong read on Mumble quite yet (laziness maybe) but the casing feels towny y'know?

This may be overcome by events due to night phase, but he came to opposite conclusions on the slot as I did, so I am either suspicious of his opinions, or curious what I'm missing.
Also at the time was a bit suspicious of you, and he voted you near end-day, so wanted to see how to untangle that bit of my read-pile.
So you're still aboard una-is-town then? I am... uhh... not super convinced.

[Ruby Red]

THE GAME IS OVER

VOTE: MORALITY

knew his shit was chainsawing ever since he replaced in with his push on me

[Mumble]

VOTE: Morality

[Zoronos]

I claim tracker - Morality visited Ausuka

VOTE: Morality

1 shot role cop.

I’m in a very unenviable position.

Catching up - If you're a one shot role cop, why did you not check the claimed miller?

[Zoronos]

Sorry, catching up a little more and realized that was a redundant question.

[the worst]

RUBY I KEEP GETTING THIS URGE TO DOUBLE HIGH FIVE YOU FOR SOME REASON

[Ruby Red]

RUBY I KEEP GETTING THIS URGE TO DOUBLE HIGH FIVE YOU FOR SOME REASON

[the worst]

@Zoronos we always lynch Mora today
Imo his flip softconfirms Una's alignment, there's some buddying fuckery going on there but I don't see it as SvS--wbu?

[Zoronos]

Imo his flip softconfirms Una's alignment, there's some buddying fuckery going on there but I don't see it as SvS--wbu?

I hadn't gotten to the tracker claim when I wrote that stuff, so it was not-up-to-latest-events informed.

I think Mora is the highest probability lynch here today, and if he's scum then Una is more likely town (see: My discussion with Ruby yesterday vis-a-vis buddying / white knighting / why Morality should get lynched first there). If I knew nothing about Morality, I'd say that double scum incidence is low. Knowing that Morality likes to make WIFOM plays, I'd almost discard it and evaluate Una in a vacuum disconnected from him.

I want to re-read Kokichi in depth before someone gets strung up though, and I'm not likely to have a lot of time until late tonight at the earliest to do that. So hopefully we don't speed wagon to day end.
Baring an amazing revelation from kokichi, I have a had time envisioning another end to the day. Because not role copping the Miller with your one shot ability is stupid. 'Scum Miller' just isn't a thing so turning a one-shot role cop into a one-shot cop seems, to me, a no brainer. I don't know Mumble's history, so Morality should probably explain better why precisely he is so confident in his mumble-sorting ability.

[Morality]

Cuz Mumble is a miller. Simple as that.

That’s inherently town orientated, and i don’t see it as a fake claim.

I already believe the miller claim, why would i need to role cop it.

And yeah, Unah is town.

[Morality]

Also, scum’s probably in Zoronos/Dunnstral.

If Dunn is town, then this game is incredibly town sided, and scum shouldn’t have ever expected to win

[the worst]

Mora's fakeclaim is nowhere near believable yeah

Duly noted about potential for SvS, postflip I'd suggest a Una reread of his ingeractions with Mora to see whether he knew his alignment. I am probably the NK. :'(

[Zoronos]

Cuz Mumble is a miller. Simple as that.
Cuz Mumble is a miller. Simple as that.

How in the world can you claim to know that? 'I believe Mumble is a miller' is a subset of 'I believe Mumble is town', not a superset.
You know who else returns a scum result to cop investigations? Scum.

Okay, let's ask it this way - Why do you believe Morality is town?

[the worst]

Why do you believe Morality is town?

Does anyone think this?

[Morality]

Mora's fakeclaim is nowhere near believable yeah

Duly noted about potential for SvS, postflip I'd suggest a Una reread of his ingeractions with Mora to see whether he knew his alignment. I am probably the NK. :'(

Even if I was scum, I would say this is incorrect.

Rolecop/Miller? How is that not believable