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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 3:59 pm

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There actually isn't much downside to lynching Beeboy, right? Gunners cant be targeted with lynches. And I feel like we have room for a lynch not going through if he is the gunner. Am I misunderstanding this? I haven't thought this through much, so someone step in with better thoughts if they have any.
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:03 pm

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The gunner itself can't be lynched but I'm sure that the one controlling it can.
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:03 pm

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Tfw dont want to lynch un-cc'd dayvig but want to lynch beeboy :'(
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:05 pm

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In post 4177, the worst wrote:Tfw dont want to lynch un-cc'd dayvig but want to lynch beeboy :'(
Samesies.
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:05 pm

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In post 4178, Chickadee wrote:
In post 4177, the worst wrote:Tfw dont want to lynch un-cc'd dayvig but want to lynch beeboy :'(
Samesies.
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:07 pm

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oh its probably less likely to be a fakeclaim tbh.
scum would be worried about getting insta-shot given a lack of shot today
and scum doesnt know if town for sure wouldnt have multiple dayvigshots.
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 4:08 pm

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on the other hand, does town have any anticlaim powers against scum? I kind of doubt it personally.
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:15 pm

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In post 4163, AP wrote:
In post 4161, Brigand Vvulf wrote:
In post 4158, AP wrote:However, I'll unvote for safety.

UNVOTE:

So here's the deal: If Beeboy is faking, the Town Gunner can shoot him. If he dies, that's fine. If not, we know he's lying anyway and we can lynch him still.
town gunner already took a shot at cheeky
2 things:

1- They can do it tomorrow
2- We don't know if they can only shoot once per day

Can we draw the line on this discussion here, please? I mean, what's the worst case? The player controlling the Town Gunner dies overnight and they don't get to shoot anyone on D3? Do you think we wouldn't notice that, assuming the flip doesn't tell us they are who they are?
In post 4169, Gorkington wrote:kind of feel like beeboy would have claimed the other shot if he were actually the gunner?
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In post 4169, Gorkington wrote:kind of feel like beeboy would have claimed the other shot if he were actually the gunner?
Gunner is publicly announced, wasnt Maria a dayvig?
Waiting to see what happens regarding the Gunner is a perfectly valid safe play.

I was also under the impression that the Gunner shots were publicly announced today because they
missed
. Maybe I'm wrong?

However, Gork is right that Beeboy didn't claim the Cheeky shot, and doesn't really give off the impression that he was scumreading her or wanted that flip. I at the very least want to lock down what Bee's claiming here before we go off doing other things.
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:21 pm

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99% sure that claim resolves itself tho
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:22 pm

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Probably.
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:38 pm

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I mean, unless this is just mod dis the difference in these two points to Bee=//=town gunner or mafia gunner.

In post 2741, Mulch wrote:
FIRST BLOOD HAS BEEN DRAWN
In post 3912, northsidegal wrote:
In post 3911, northsidegal wrote:
TOWN GUNNER IS TAKING A SHOT AT CHEEKYTEEKY
Missed!
Mafia killing roles outside of the factional kill are rare on this site but with the rise of "role madness" and Mulch being from a 3rd rate mafia site I feel like its somewhat possible he'd add a scum killing role. His play his ass and his lurk do nothing play makes me think he's scum thats lurking it out but he's prob not our lynch for the next couple of days.
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:43 pm

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I dislike Cheeky and I thinks that's a pretty good lynch but I equally dislike
In post 4151, Spiffeh wrote:No town player would just give up like this given the immense lead they have rn
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:46 pm

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RE: Bins. I disliked Bins and kinda hated the fact that she said nothing about me scum reading her until a little quip about me being scum today. I kinda backed off since she helped lynch screenplay. Could it have been a bus? Maybe I just don't know, alot of scummy ppl left.
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Wed May 02, 2018 6:49 pm

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of course, if there's a CC to Bee and it nullifies 4185 but we'll cross that path when/if we get there.
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:04 am

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VOTE: Panopticon
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:15 am

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surprised there was no reaction at all by pineapplehydra tbh
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:52 am

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I didn't shoot Cheeky?
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:53 am

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Also why would scum have both a Mafia Gunner and a 1-shot Day vig.
I kinda think that would be overwhelming given the mafia gunner is more valuable to the mafia then the town gunner is valuable to the town.
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 12:55 am

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I might be wrong on Panto but I am still leaning towards Brian Skiies right now.
I need to reeval Cheeky but I recall her slot being town same goes for bins.
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:00 am

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In post 4160, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 2.73

Beeboy(5)
~ (20), (27), (28), (42), (15)

CheekyTeeky(4)
~ (17), (5), (82), (20)
Bins(2)
~ (25), (50)
Panopticon(1)
~ (19)
Brian Skies(1)
~ (24)


Not Voting (7): Town Gunner(0), Mafia Gunner(0), Vaxkiller(9), (35), Spiffeh(15), (23), (41)

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-07 12:19:59)
In post 4193, beeboy wrote:I might be wrong on Panto but I am still leaning towards Brian Skiies right now.
I need to reeval Cheeky but I recall her slot being town same goes for bins.
Uh you're voting me?
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:15 am

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VOTE: Bins
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:41 am

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guys that vote was a meme
Pray, which leg moves after which?
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 1:56 am

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gork next?
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 2:15 am

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vote: cheeky


CLAIM
Pray, which leg moves after which?
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Thu May 03, 2018 2:16 am

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actually
everyone creature didn't cross off claiming is optimal
Pray, which leg moves after which?

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