Mini Theme 2008: Role Design Committee [Game Over]

[Alonzo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgGGPZsAh4

If I get Vanilla Town I riot

Greetings people.

[Momrangal]

I want my rooolllleeee

And to submit my second rooollleeee

[NicoRobin]

I want my rooolllleeee

And to submit my second rooollleeee

Me too.

[StefanB]

Golden Paradox: I am good.

Alonso: Getting VT is imposible in this game.

[Not Known 15]

The second round of submissions will be with known alignments, we should talk about what to submit when that round begins(not earlier because it would not be AI).

[StefanB]

I have allready an idea, but I would use a partner for that, Koichi if you read that mine and Beefstersrole would have been interesting, not to difficult and usable for both aligments.
Or we could of course go blantly for roles that are only good for town, not posible for scum.

[StefanB]

8 hours a hello would have been nice.
Please check everyone in before you submit your second role.

[NicoRobin]

Hello.

[StefanB]

Nico I didn't mean you or any else who has posted in this tread.
But hello again.

[TheGoldenParadox]

I refuse to submit what you guys tell me to submit. It defeats the purpose.

[StefanB]

At the moment Not Known and me are thinking if we can use the machanics to our advantage.
I at last have no desire to dictate anythink (not my stile) but give town better control what is in the game.
My plan is to discus strategy for the second round of submissions.

[mutantdevle]

All alignment PMs have been sent. These PMs include notifying everyone to submit their second role.

[StefanB]

So now we can talk about it, I have a role in mind usfull for town, but unfortunatly also usfull for scum, I have a failsafe in mind, that would make the role more protown (and be a fun role imho for 2 players).
My question is or should we go full pro-town here and submit roles like masons that can only be town.

[Not Known 15]

So now we can talk about it, I have a role in mind usfull for town, but unfortunatly also usfull for scum, I have a failsafe in mind, that would make the role more protown (and be a fun role imho for 2 players).
My question is or should we go full pro-town here and submit roles like masons that can only be town.

No not only those that can only be town and super helpful; mutant would likely only use round 1 roles then(and something tells me that this would not be great).
Three Mason submits... maybe.
Otherwise:
roles that have little use for mafia and lots for town:
Alignment catching Cops(useless for Mafia)
Innocent child variants that work with both alignments
strong bodyguards(kill attacker)
Alignment action roleblockers(useless for Mafia, but weak to mod changes(unfortunately the mod said they might slightly change roles)
Weak Loyal roles(great combo; Loyal prevents weak from ever triggering when you are town, totally useless as Mafia

BUT mutant might change that and remove the weak or Loyal part for mafia so maybe not so good idea

)
6-shot Bulletproof
AND
deceptive roles with hidden parts, but only if these hidden parts actually help town only.

[NicoRobin]

Submitted my second role.

[StefanB]

I thought about even/odd night JK who are neighbours to each other.

[Not Known 15]

I thought about even/odd night JK who are neighbours to each other.

What? That will only help Mafia!
No please submit a mason or a cop then. Or any other much better combo I listed.
But please do not submit

that

!

[TheGoldenParadox]

Submitted role, helpful for town, almost no use for scum, can not be modified to help scum.

[Espeonage]

My first role was super fun.

Second role is technically doable for scum but they don't the mileage out of it.

[StefanB]

I sent a mason-PM (with Daytalk).

[StefanB]

On other posibilitys are copvariants, Gunshmith for example (Yes can catch a Vig but that shouldn't be a role that we submit anyhow exept as loyal vig).

[Not Known 15]

On other posibilitys are copvariants, Gunshmith for example (Yes can catch a Vig but that shouldn't be a role that we submit anyhow exept as loyal vig).

You forgot the first round of submissions Stefan.

[StefanB]

I mean a vig that only works on mafia, don't know how it would be called.
Than a gunsmith can only catch vigs if they are in the game, still a good usful for town, with minimal use for scum.

[Not Known 15]

I mean a vig that only works on mafia, don't know how it would be called.
Than a gunsmith can only catch vigs if they are in the game, still a good usful for town, with minimal use for scum.

A gunsmith also catches any sort of COPS and we do NOT want that on scum.

[Espeonage]

Tbh posting a night phase role is fucked. I ruined the night phase with my first submission.