Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

welp, ignore those quotes. I was quoting posts to look at them to write this and I guess I multiquoted some shit by accident. Apologies.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was gonna do Vax's tonight as well, but honestly, I'm exhausted. Tomorrow morning when I wake is a better idea.

[Pine]

BBmolla replaces Gamma Emerald

Hey I like this dude

U bring me the best replacements UT

Because of all of the replacements I will give you a one time special extra official votecount

BUT NO EXTRA TIME YOU LOQUACIOUS MOTHERFUCKERS

HAAAAAAAAAATE

But thanks for the extra VC, it was my bad BUT BLAME HYUNG

[Gammagooey]

Deadline is in 36 hours, get on a wagon

VOTECOUNT
hyung 4 (LLD, Pine, Alisae, CheekyTeeky, Reck)
Lady Lambdadelta - 3 (hyung, Gammagooey, Brian Skies)
ArcAngel9 - 2 (Vaxkiller, PenguinPower)
Vaxkiller - 2 (Vecna, Firebringer)
Brian Skies - 1 (NSG)
Alisae
CheekyTeeky
Firebringer
Gamma Emerald
Gammagooey
mutantdevle
northsidegal
PenguinPower
Pine
Titus
Vecna
xRECKONERx

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch
Deadline in (expired on 2018-05-04 18:00:00)

[Gammagooey]

fixed two things

VOTECOUNT
hyung 5 - (LLD, Pine, Alisae, CheekyTeeky, Reck)
Lady Lambdadelta - 3 (hyung, Gammagooey, Brian Skies)
ArcAngel9 - 2 (Vaxkiller, PenguinPower)
Vaxkiller - 2 (Vecna, Firebringer)
Brian Skies - 1 (NSG)
CheekyTeeky - 1 (Arcangel9)
Alisae
Firebringer
Gamma Emerald
Gammagooey
mutantdevle
northsidegal
PenguinPower
Pine
Titus
Vecna
xRECKONERx

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch
Deadline in (expired on 2018-05-04 18:00:00)

[hyung]

I got on and was going to post last night but decided this wasn't worth my time :)

also for a tangential life tip moment, probably the healthiest thing I've learned is that when people are WRONG on the INTERNET... don't let the annoyance seep into your day to day. at times I think some people here seem to forget that

I'll be on later today.

[mutantdevle]

what was your motive to give a full list of shit when you could actually just talk about your real reads? Do you love trolling?

Exclusively in this game, yes.

[mutantdevle]

Didn't you had me as leaning scum in your first list? I hadn't said or done anything ever since your first list. So what has changed. How did i manage to jump from your scum list to town list???

^^ roughly 9 of those are real, the rest are random.

???

How did you manage to forget this crucial piece of information about my reads list?

[xRECKONERx]

excellent, thanks LLD

hyung wagon is go

policy -> actual scum lynch

[mutantdevle]

Actually, y'know what? Brian is town.

I'm barely playing yet I feel like he's allowing us to get a firm grip on him. I don't think I'd get that level of certainty from scum lords.

[mutantdevle]

VOTE: hyung

[Pine]

LLD, our deal is off.

I straight want Hyung's blood now.

Lynch Vax with me D2.

[Vaxkiller]

Ive been thinking about you alot pine. Why do you want Hyungs blood? So its no longer a policy lynch? What changed since this:

LLD, stop

Hyung is a bit of a troll, and I'd be happy to PL them with you. They'd be a really solid policy vig, too.

But there is absolutely no chance of rounding up a lynch there with two days left.

Vote Vax with me.

[Vaxkiller]

@Fire: Ur face is Growlithe.

Okay, so I just tracked down all the votes on AA9. With the sole exception of Vaxkiller, who's been parked on AA9 for about ten days, every single vote has been moved onto her in the last 36 or so hours. A wagon like that is scum-pushed.

ArcAngel9 - 8 (Vaxkiller, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Alisae, xRECKONERx, Vecna, CheekyTeeky, Brian Skies)

Fortunately, all of those are in chronological order.

So who's the scum there? Vax might be, but he's not in this VCA for now. GEmerald and NSG are the starter and first follower, and Alisae backed off when e saw how the wagon was developing suspiciously. Ditto Brian. Reck looks like the scum here, or perhaps Vecna, or both. They're in the positions that take it from a simple flashwagon into a crescendo, pulling in VI Cheeky and votehopper Brian.

VOTE: Reck

This is who we're lynching.

Hey pine.

How about you go back to cheeky, unless you think they have changed significantly.

I do feel that way, and have said as much.

Vax making me very uneasy now.

Hyung

Pine is scum for a few reasons

First, their

Cheeky

Vaxkiller stance. They were one of the people who stayed on

Cheeky

Vaxkiller basically the whole time, up until basically the most recent events. Their original opening post on

Cheeky

Vaxkiller showed some measure of attempting to sort the slot, but when examining that attempt it doesn't parse as actually attempting to find scum, but rather feels more like

Hyung

Pine is looking for an easy mislynch and

Cheeky

Vaxkiller fit the bill.

This is backed up by evidence of how

hyung

Pine treats the

Cheeky wagon

Vaxkiller and the game for the rest of the time. Random status quo maintaining posts meant to avoid prods and check in and keep

Cheeky alive

shading Vaxkiller as the defacto mislynch, without any

attempts to sort other players.

explanation of reads.

The only real counter example is when Hyung calls {Mutant, Pine, Hiplop} all scum, but says he "has no proof to back it up".

It's the kind of line that if the player was performing with more investment might be somethign with actual weight behind it that someone could hold them to, but given that

Hyung

Pine was mostly a

non-presence

presence who shades. I don't think it mitigates the issues at all, rather I think it just is an example of throwing somehting at a wall and seeing what sticks. Testing the waters, if you will.

Then, we have Hyung's use of the votecount mechanic. It is easy to dismiss this as simply anti-town and misguided in an attempt to end the day early out of apathy, but the fact you need to consider is this player was actively contributing to this apathy by not posting and not interacting and yet they decide to do this? It doesn't feel "Trolly" and I reject assertions that it is "dumb, not scum". I think it is the kind of move scum makes in hyungs position and hopes that everyone is too demoralized and no one thinks scum would do something so ballsy. It actively hurt us and it IS scummy.

Finally, we have

Hyung's

Pines interactions with me. His initial post was exactly the kind of post we talked about in part one. It accomplishes 3 goals:

1)

it dodges the prod timer, so the player doesn't look excessively inactive like the other inactives in the game

looks like activity with nothing of real substance
2) it keeps the game in apathy because it tacitly approves people calling the game "Shit" and just giving up
3) it looks like it provides some manner of opinion or content when really it does nothing of the sort.

So I call this player on it, and vote them. The reasons for my vote are the above, but also,

the manner in which Hyung attempted to defend themselves against my vote, pressure and accusations were very much resembling scrambling scum. What's more, when pushed into the corner and without any way to dodge or lurk, since I just shined a giant fucking spotlight in his face, Hyung did what I would expect scum to do there. Vote me back, make a scene and hope people write it off as two players having a bad interactions, and either ignore us both or damn us both.

Maybe in the future?

Then he'd just go back to

lurking

shading while everyone else around him tries to find a compromise lynch.

The fact of the matter is that I think

Hyungs

Pines reads are bad and scummy, his behaviour is bad and scummy and his

reactions

shading and tone are bad and scummy.

I'm very confident this person flips scum. This is my case on them,

Reck.

Everyone.

VOTE: Pine

To top it off they are now pulling the same shit with hyung

[Pine]

Ive been thinking about you alot pine. Why do you want Hyungs blood? So its no longer a policy lynch? What changed since this:

LLD, stop

Hyung is a bit of a troll, and I'd be happy to PL them with you. They'd be a really solid policy vig, too.

But there is absolutely no chance of rounding up a lynch there with two days left.

Vote Vax with me.

Mostly Hyung's response to being wagoned.

Also hilariously unsurprised by the distraction from Vax.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Hyung

[ArcAngel9]

Vax - what is your agenda on pushing Pine? Do you really think that is going to happen?

i dont see any town motivation around it.

[Gammagooey]

i'll still be pretty surprised if hyung is scum but at least it looks like a lynch will actually happen today

hyung you should prob claim sometime today/tonight.

[northsidegal]

I don't think hyung flips scum.

[xRECKONERx]

I don't think hyung flips scum.

[Vaxkiller]

I figured as such. No one gives 2 fucks when someones iso is only filled shade with no explanations even when ask profusely, then flip flops a "policy lynch" into wanting thier blood for no reason.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax - what is your agenda on pushing Pine? Do you really think that is going to happen?

i dont see any town motivation around it.

My "AGENDA" is that Pine's iso is shit, pushes people for no reason, and only shades people. His mantra is "X IS SCUM, COME VOTE THEM"
Do I think it will happen? There is ALWAYS a part of me that believes people will rally behind me when I point something out, and every fucking time I'm left disappointed.

How can you not see town motivation behind my vote for the specific reasons I have put forth? This sentence REALLY bothers me and I need to think about it more.

Like if you think I'm scum why arent you tearing my argument apart, no you just say you don't see the town motivation, I don't think this is something town would say. I need to think this through some more.

[Pine]

Yeah I have a ton in my ISO that's more sophisticated than shade and empty votes. You're just obsessing over my lean case on you, bruv.

[BBmolla]

Missed my replace in announcement

I'm here though, sup sup.

[BBmolla]

I will be very limited reading wise this weekend, it's closing weekend for my show. Next week I should have plenty of time.