I do find it strange how GL's first post after coming back into the thread is in response to that one and not in response to anything else since his last post.
no, I stop pushing Fumuki when they make a fairly townie response to me
like if my goal was to bus I wouldn't back down as soon as it starts to look likely
earlier you said I was scummy because I FOS'd shaddowez (possible buddy) while voting Fumuki (possible townie), now you say I'm scummy because I unvote Fumuki (possible buddy). You're writing narratives to support your conclusion instead of taking in all the evidence
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 429, GuiltyLion wrote:I think NSG, TW, RC are all town. I don't really personally have a strong reason to townread Hiraki but I'm willing to sheep RC's townread there.
The thing that stands out to me right now is Fumuki's repeated defense/townread of shaddow
I'll be honest here. Having see me play once already I was expecting you to remember how I tend to at least try to defend who I think that's simply lynchbait. You did this same thing you're doing now as scum in Newbie 1860. I don't know your meta enough to say that is definitely alignment indicative but I'm not liking it GL, and although I had voted you just for some pressure, that vote is serious right now.
actually this post feels really genuine
and I was thinking Fumuki could be scum with Invisibility but the latest votes make me feel that's less likely UNVOTE:
(as an aside, I have gotten flack for defending lynchbait players in the past, and I think I've learned that the best way to do it is to push on the people who are scumreading/voting the player you think might be lynchbait - not to defend the lynchbait and hold them up as town. I don't think anyone should have a good reason to townread shaddowez at this stage of the game and so I'm gonna be suspicious of the motives/agenda of anyone who claims he's town. However, pressuring players who think shaddowez is scum to explain why they are certain he
isn't
town is a slightly different thing to do and one that's way more justifiable/good for the game state).
are scum with GL? You were suspicious of me then GL comes and cast shade on me based on something that's NAI for me and he supposedly should KNOW that. It's EXACTLY what happened in Newbie 1860 with him coming only to back up his partner scum reads.
I'm willing to hold on GL for now since I don't know his meta or if he ever remembers Newbie 1860 but if things don't get better and we come to lylo or mylo, I'm going to tunnel and am already warning RC-san.
Transparent SvS backing off when I support the bus
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 501, GuiltyLion wrote:no, I stop pushing Fumuki when they make a fairly townie response to me
like if my goal was to bus I wouldn't back down as soon as it starts to look likely
earlier you said I was scummy because I FOS'd shaddowez (possible buddy) while voting Fumuki (possible townie), now you say I'm scummy because I unvote Fumuki (possible buddy). You're writing narratives to support your conclusion instead of taking in all the evidence
Bye GL
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 501, GuiltyLion wrote:like if my goal was to bus I wouldn't back down as soon as it starts to look likely
i don't think any scum would bus their partner to a lynch day one in this setup. besides bussing day one in micros being exceptionally infrequent, with a vig specifically you can't necessarily rely on consensus townreads to keep you alive to endgame when one player specifically with a scumread on you could end the game for you.
than when I switched votes, and I've been pinging Invisibility since the
start
of the game, that btw is only getting scummier. If you're that willing to cast shade on other like this, I need to ask you if you scumread on Invisibility continues
You thought I was dead set on shaddowez and I was tying people to them already. Why wouldn't you make a nice push on your buddy to distance? You just didn't think I'd reevaluate in response to new information
Why is he calling you scum but making excuses to not vote you?
And so on. You're not taking another game off me GL
VOTE: GL
Don't trust the vig to not fuck this up if we do the opposite
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
than when I switched votes, and I've been pinging Invisibility since the
start
of the game, that btw is only getting scummier. If you're that willing to cast shade on other like this, I need to ask you if you scumread on Invisibility continues
"meh"
and based on what I said about him, why.
Throw everything you got at me and it's still not enough.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
actually I probably want to lynch Invisibility more than shaddowez but I'm too lazy to count the votes at the moment
Invisibility wasn't "certain enough" to scumread shaddowez but felt good enough about Fumuki to put them at L-1
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
no, I stop pushing Fumuki when they make a fairly townie response to me
like if my goal was to bus I wouldn't back down as soon as it starts to look likely
earlier you said I was scummy because I FOS'd shaddowez (possible buddy) while voting Fumuki (possible townie), now you say I'm scummy because I unvote Fumuki (possible buddy). You're writing narratives to support your conclusion instead of taking in all the evidence
H-hm...okay...I'm starting to think that RC-san tunneling people is less to do with alignment and more to do with his playstyle...
Oh look GL told Fumuki that pushing on me is a bad idea and the best play is to keep his distance and let a mislynch go through while minimizing the conflict and just nightkill me. Wow it's like I've never seen this before.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 514, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh look now they're trying to coagulate onto a wagon and end the day fast to fucking silence me classy
I intentionally voted shaddowez because I knew he wasn't close to lynch yet with your unvote
like I definitely do not want the day to end
you can keep talking all you want
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
VOTE: Invisibility
I want my vote here because I want shaddowez to respond to this Invisibility wagon
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
In post 516, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh look GL told Fumuki that pushing on me is a bad idea and the best play is to keep his distance and let a mislynch go through while minimizing the conflict and just nightkill me. Wow it's like I've never seen this before.
