Micro 800-A: Double Day Unlimited [Endgame]

[northsidegal]

Day One, Lynch One

Votecount 1.2

Cogito Ergo Sum (2):

Not_Mafia, singersinger

Katyusha (2):

RedFlavor, Not_Mafia

singersinger (2):

Not_Mafia, Cogito Ergo Sum

Plotinus (1):

Not_Mafia

Dunnstral (2):

Ausuka, Not_Mafia

Pine (4):

RedFlavor, Plotinus, Not_Mafia, singersinger

Ausuka (1):

Not_Mafia

RedFlavor (3)

Katyusha, Not_Mafia, Pine

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-05-20 01:00:59)

Mod Notes:

[Katyusha]

What was he more like? Aggression is usually town indicative so if that’s a significant difference between his scum/townplay I’ll look into that

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he's more, like, passive there? laid-back. not like what he's doing here.

UNVOTE:

going from that and polygamist (which i just skimmed his iso of since i know mathdino misread him there for a while) yeah there's a pretty stark contrast here

who do you want to wagon instead? i'm townreading you and singer right now, i'll give redflavor some space, and pine is at l-1 and im not super crazy about the lynch there. kind of dont want to wagon dunn since he's an easy read when he actually posts so i dont really need the pressure/risk being stupid and misreading him when his alignment usually clears up after a few posts

[Katyusha]

Not worried about getting hammered, Pine?

actually here's your answer

VOTE: ces

Where were you getting the impression Pine was worried?

[Ausuka]

idk. I like CES so far. I haven't been liking singer and that's where I'd like to wagon, but you said she's town so that's probably not an option.

If I had to make a readslist rn it'd probably be like
{Ausuka}
{CES, Katy}
{RedFlavour}
{Pine, Dunnstral, Plot, N_M}
{Singer}

pedit: uhhh this is awkward

[Katyusha]

LMFAO

[Katyusha]

vote: CES

i liked the timing of this vote, i wasnt too crazy about ces's post above it (i thought his rvs stuff was like. tonally ok and wanted to stick to my draft read on rf first so i didnt bother joining)

pressure on you felt legitimate as well - what's your qualm there?

[Pine]

Day One, Lynch One

Votecount 1.2

Cogito Ergo Sum (2):

Not_Mafia, singersinger

Katyusha (2):

RedFlavor, Not_Mafia

singersinger (2):

Not_Mafia, Cogito Ergo Sum

Plotinus (1):

Not_Mafia

Dunnstral (2):

Ausuka, Not_Mafia

Pine (4):

RedFlavor, Plotinus, Not_Mafia, singersinger

Ausuka (1):

Not_Mafia

RedFlavor (3)

Katyusha, Not_Mafia, Pine

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-05-20 01:00:59)

Mod Notes:

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Only player with no votes, and voting everyone else. Harshly anti-Town.

[Katyusha]

I'd like to vote for scum as annoying as that is, Pine. Do you have any reads besides that?

[Dunnstral]

Pine (4): RedFlavor, Plotinus, Not_Mafia, singersinger

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

HMmmmMM

[Pine]

RedFlavor looks scummy to me. Not a huge fan of Singer's opacity.

Honestly it's way too early for sophisticated reads.

[Dunnstral]

WQhat do you think of this Ausuka? You've got him pretty low in your reads

[Katyusha]

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lease no

Dunn is town btw

[Ausuka]

vote: CES

i liked the timing of this vote, i wasnt too crazy about ces's post above it (i thought his rvs stuff was like. tonally ok and wanted to stick to my draft read on rf first so i didnt bother joining)

pressure on you felt legitimate as well - what's your qualm there?

well, unless Pine is town there was probably scum on him, and the wagonhop from singer there feels like a likely candidate. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the CES post, and I think you probably misread it? The pressure on me doesn't really feel that legitimate; she's saying I'm scum because I don't want Pine quickhammered on page 2 and because I forgot about the double-day mechanic? And I'm not even sure it's meant to be pressure on me, considering she's voting Pine and CES but not me.

I agree the voting everyone thing is anti-town but am unsure NM is scum for that. I almost hammered Pine earlier tbh because I didn't realise the wagon was L-1

[Katyusha]

RedFlavor looks scummy to me. Not a huge fan of Singer's opacity.

Honestly it's way too early for sophisticated reads.

Is opaqueness scummy in your experience? It’s not really my style but I usually can see why people are like that early on

vote: CES

i liked the timing of this vote, i wasnt too crazy about ces's post above it (i thought his rvs stuff was like. tonally ok and wanted to stick to my draft read on rf first so i didnt bother joining)

pressure on you felt legitimate as well - what's your qualm there?

well, unless Pine is town there was probably scum on him, and the wagonhop from singer there feels like a likely candidate. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the CES post, and I think you probably misread it? The pressure on me doesn't really feel that legitimate; she's saying I'm scum because I don't want Pine quickhammered on page 2 and because I forgot about the double-day mechanic? And I'm not even sure it's meant to be pressure on me, considering she's voting Pine and CES but not me.

I agree the voting everyone thing is anti-town but am unsure NM is scum for that. I almost hammered Pine earlier tbh because I didn't realise the wagon was L-1

I don’t think she was calling you scum for it lmao, just picking at your head. If she disagrees though I’d like to hear her POV

And, nah, didn’t misread CES’s post. It feels like if I guess... inflammatory? (Not really the right word) and the value call of pine doesn’t really make sense to me

Gonna look again at the wagons

[Katyusha]

I guess rn I’d pick n_m as the most likely scum on pine if pine is town, I don’t think singer’s vote was particularly opportunistic like you say

Like I’m townreading her ces vote more and can plausibly see scum!singer making her pine vote, but her pine vote is null to me

n_m > rf > ploti > singer

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Where were you getting the impression Pine was worried?

The question was based on him not showing outward signs of being worried (hence the "Not") - Pine seemed to talk around the issue a bit in #43 and #45 rather than addressing it. I did think he might be somewhat worried but that was just based on general principles. It also just felt like it made sense to poke the guy that's at L-1.

[Katyusha]

i forgot the word not and didnt call myself out lmao

I feel like there are better ways to poke the guy at l-1, though. Like it kind of feels like a non-question to me. What would have been an AI response, for example?

More to the point though I don't really see how Pine should have reacted. 45 and what I assume you mean in 47 seem like pretty typical posts of someone getting wagonned and if anything I'd argue he's at least doing something with his wagon scumhunting wise. I don't think it's outside of his scumrange but the line of questioning here doesn't sit well with me.

[singersigner]

vote: CES

i liked the timing of this vote, i wasnt too crazy about ces's post above it (i thought his rvs stuff was like. tonally ok and wanted to stick to my draft read on rf first so i didnt bother joining)

pressure on you felt legitimate as well - what's your qualm there?

well, unless Pine is town there was probably scum on him, and the wagonhop from singer there feels like a likely candidate. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the CES post, and I think you probably misread it? The pressure on me doesn't really feel that legitimate; she's saying I'm scum because I don't want Pine quickhammered on page 2 and because I forgot about the double-day mechanic? And I'm not even sure it's meant to be pressure on me, considering she's voting Pine and CES but not me.

I agree the voting everyone thing is anti-town but am unsure NM is scum for that. I almost hammered Pine earlier tbh because I didn't realise the wagon was L-1

Lol at no point did I call you scum.

In response to your question about whether forgetting about the double lynch makes you scum? The sheer question itself negates anything I might've considered about it.

[Dunnstral]

Singersinger, do you think Pine deserves to be at L-1?

[singersigner]

Also, that was my bad about the L-1. I have to get used to the multi-voting thing and not make assumptions of unvoting when voting someone else.

That being said, I'd be even more cognizant of it as a means for scum to get away with hiding votes especially since I phone post a lot. >_>

[Not_Mafia]

I’m not even whelmed by Pine’s posting

[singersigner]

Singersinger, do you think Pine deserves to be at L-1?

He doesn't deserve

not

to be, imo. But not just because of him.

[Katyusha]

mean in 47 seem like pretty typical posts of someone getting wagonned and if any

Er 48 lol

I’m not even whelmed by Pine’s posting

Are you expecting to be?

[Dunnstral]

intent to hammer Pine

[Not_Mafia]

mean in 47 seem like pretty typical posts of someone getting wagonned and if any

Er 48 lol

I’m not even whelmed by Pine’s posting

Are you expecting to be?

Yes, at the very least I expect his posts to be half decent