Open 720: NOIR (GAME OVER)

pinturicchio · Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:23 pm

No matter who is lynched today, can we lynch Quick tomorrow?

Oxy · Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:26 pm

In post 2550, pinturicchio wrote:No matter who is lynched today, can we lynch Quick tomorrow?

no

Oxy · Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:26 pm

I'mma be dead tomorrow, don't do that

Sando · Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:27 pm

In post 2551, Oxy wrote:
In post 2550, pinturicchio wrote:No matter who is lynched today, can we lynch Quick tomorrow?
no

What if we 100% gamesolve and have a mislynch in hand, can we do it then? Pretty please?

Not_Mafia · Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:29 pm

And to think we lynched ceejay yesterday

pinturicchio · Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:30 pm

In post 2553, Sando wrote:
In post 2551, Oxy wrote:
In post 2550, pinturicchio wrote:No matter who is lynched today, can we lynch Quick tomorrow?
no
What if we 100% gamesolve and have a mislynch in hand, can we do it then? Pretty please?

Yeah please Mr. Oxy

Quick · Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:36 pm

In post 2546, Sando wrote:
In post 2542, Quick wrote:Sure. Does hider die if they hide behind the Town that is killed?
Yep, I know where you're going, and before you say it, read what I've said and you can work out for yourself why it's fine for them both to die.

Blah blah, assuming it has to do with having an even number of players. Not convinced by that. Why kill Town when we don't have to?

Oxy · Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:37 pm

In post 2555, pinturicchio wrote:
In post 2553, Sando wrote:
In post 2551, Oxy wrote:
In post 2550, pinturicchio wrote:No matter who is lynched today, can we lynch Quick tomorrow?
no
What if we 100% gamesolve and have a mislynch in hand, can we do it then? Pretty please?
Yeah please Mr. Oxy

lol okay but make it quick

got a game to win here

Quick · Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:38 pm

In post 2553, Sando wrote:
In post 2551, Oxy wrote:
In post 2550, pinturicchio wrote:No matter who is lynched today, can we lynch Quick tomorrow?
no
What if we 100% gamesolve and have a mislynch in hand, can we do it then? Pretty please?

Are you claiming to have the game solved?

Sando · Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:44 pm

In post 2556, Quick wrote:Blah blah, assuming it has to do with having an even number of players. Not convinced by that. Why kill Town when we don't have to?

You're not convinced by math? MD pretty sure he's taking a swipe at you, you gonna take that?

10 alive 3 scum, mislynch and NK down to 8 alive 3 scum, mislynch and NK down to 6 alive 3 scum, town loses with 2 mislynches.
10 alive 3 scum, mislynch and NK and hider dead, 7 alive 3 scum, mislynch and NK down to 5 alive 3 scum, town loses with 2 mislynches.

Sando · Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:47 pm

In post 2556, Quick wrote:Why kill Town when we don't have to?

In the case of you:

In the case of the hider, because it makes no difference to the number of days we get or mislynches we can do, and potentially helps us gamesolve. Ie, it's playing to our wincon, pro-town, townie...etc.

Sando · Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:50 pm

In post 2545, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2542, Quick wrote:
In post 2524, Sando wrote:
In post 2523, Quick wrote:and LOL at hider saying who they hide behind. That's dumb. If they want to do that they should give multiple people they are hiding behind because if they just give one, then that's two Town for the price of one.
Don't LOL at things you don't understand, especially when it's been explained clearly and you can't find the intellect to actually articulate a counter argument other than "that's dumb".
Sure. Does hider die if they hide behind the Town that is killed?
Geez Louise

Do you see what I have to deal with? It's been like this since Day1!

Quick · Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:55 pm

Someone didn't take their benzo's today.

Oxy · Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 4:56 pm

In post 2562, Quick wrote:Someone didn't take their benzo's today.

okay, this was funny

Mathdino · Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:25 pm

In post 2500, Mathdino wrote:
Votecount 3-2
Not_Mafia
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(3)
: Alonzo, Quick, mutantdevle

jjh927
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(1)
: Not_Mafia

mutantdevle
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(4)
: pinturicchio, jjh927, Oxy, MOMOMEN

Not Voting
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(2)
: havingfitz, Sando

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-18 00:00:00)

VC updated, no changes since then.

mutantdevle · Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:31 pm

In post 2549, Sando wrote:Intent to give NM the lolhammer on mutant.

Assuming this is intent to L-1.

This game gets pretty demotivating when town is doing so badly and mafia is clearly stronger than anyone seems to be giving them credit for as well as very few people actually listening to you. Well, I am the tracker. Quick was up to nothing N1 and I got no result N2. So mafia has a 100% jailkeep / attempted kill rate on PRs. Excuse me if that lowkey worries me. Obviously, that's telling that the mafia are good PR hunters which is something at least. I was a bit paranoid throughout day 2 that maybe Oxy was scum going for the successful WIFOM by outing that they spotted the worst's crumb and he was my first thought when I saw I had been jailed. Obviously, Pint clears him. The only other person I can think of that might be that good of a PR hunter is MOMOMEN.

I was originally going to choose vig but since Fumuki and Korina replaced out I felt there wasn't enough policy that needed to be dealt with. Obviously, N_M was a problem but I expected there to be more support for him being lynched day 2 and even if I was to shoot him then who do I shoot after that? Vig is such a dangerous role and, as many people like to remind me frequently, my reads are shit. I could always just not shoot people but I figured that would be a waste of the vig role and that we'd get more utility from tracker. I wish I didn't make that decision because I have a horrible feeling that NM is going to live to MYLO.

MOMOMEN since you're obviously not going to agree with me that it's you who has essentially outed/killed all our PRs, who do you think would somehow be figuring out all these PRs? This question sorta applies to everyone tbh because I don't know everyone in this game too well.

Pintu and Oxy are confirmed town.
I'm too confident that Sando is town.
I highly doubt Quick would be finding PRs on this level (no offence).
I don't recall NM ever being a good PR hunter?
I've seen them do well as a PR so maybe Fitz.
jjh idek. They seem intelligent so possibly but I read them as town.
Alonzo could be but, again, idk.

Personally, the only people I'm excluding from my lynch pool are Oxy, Pintu, Quick and Sando. If either Quick or Sando are scum then I think we'd easily get them after their buddies. Take everything I say with a grain of salt though because, at the moment, I'm neither properly confirmed town nor are my reads too good.

Can y'all start appreciating me a little more now? Thanks.

jjh927 · Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:35 pm

VOTE: Not Mafia

Sando · Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:36 pm

VOTE: Alonzo

jjh927 · Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:42 pm

VOTE: Alonzo

Yeah this is better

jjh927 · Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:48 pm

Btw mutant, you're barking up the wrong tree. I still maintain that nobody's PR hunting is going to be significantly better than random chance, and I'm pretty sure Eddie agrees with me

Oxy · Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:49 pm

VOTE: unvote

Quick · Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:53 pm

Why is there so much resistance to a NM lynch @Sando, @jj.

Oxy · Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:55 pm

quick, what do you think the scum team is again?

maybe it's time for some out of the box thinking

Sando · Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 5:56 pm

In post 2571, Quick wrote:Why is there so much resistance to a NM lynch @Sando, @jj.

Cause I have zero read on him and we're using the hider to reduce our risk. If you'd like to propose an alternate plan that is more than "LOL THAT'S DUMB" then I'm all ears, till then I'm following my plan.

pinturicchio · Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2018 6:00 pm

@mutant why do you think the scumteam would jail you?

Before changing to any wagon, can we wait to see if someone counterclaims? I still don't believe mutant