Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It's more of im supposed to be a shining beacon of guidance.
And I feel more confused about what's going on.

[Ouroboros]

Townreads

Tchill
Davesaz
Alchemist21
Hebichan
Our slot obvobv

Lazy townreads

Dunnstral

[Kaede Akamatsu]

hm? since when did hebi go from scum to town?

[Ramcius]

VOTE: Ramcius

agree, that's good wagon

I don't understand why a townie (moreover, anyone) would vote for themselves - seems like you saw a wagon forming and then panicked to try and loosen the noose around your neck. Also, why change your vote to Wilky seemingly just because Ouroboros called you out for it? Please explain your logic.

VOTE: Ramcius

Well, i could keep my RVS vote, but we were past RVS stage, so it's kinda obvious why i voted someone, as to why i voted Wilky - I never said i townread them, just that my scumread on Tchill was stronger, hence i said Wilky can be shot.

[Ramcius]

Sure, that's true, but given all that like we got Willy to l2 almost effortlessly and this Ramcius push has gotten far less traction.

Why you comparing mine and Wilky wagons traction? He claimed miller in scummy manner, while what i did? Wanted someone else lynched? Voted myself to indicate how ridiculous i find this push "Ram is scummy"? I hear that in pretty much every game and should i make list of games, where i got ML'ed D1?

[hebichan]

Townreads

Tchill
Davesaz
Alchemist21
Hebichan
Our slot obvobv

Lazy townreads

Dunnstral

Dunn is being dunn.

Not sure I agree with alchemist, otherwise im on board with you.

[Ouroboros]

I literally haven't been able to post this game much because of work, please wait for me to actually get in this game more. geezus.

I'm actually invested in this game and looking about.

I don't think tchill is scum, and I don't like how alchemist was fishing for roles.

I don't see scum unprompted claiming hider.

This felt towny enough from Hebi and I also started liking some of her earlier posts more.
Dunnstral is a lazy townread, I don't think he's substanstively more likely to be town.

I was also considering putting Nero in lazy townreads pile ftr.

[Ouroboros]

Alchemist I understand why you scumread him cuz I get icky pings but his meta is pretty clear that this is his towngame.

[Ouroboros]

I have too many scumreads in the semiactives to think that it would be productive for me to make a list of scumreads besides Ramcius.

People in this game need to step up the posting, I was hoping to solve this game before the weekend

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I get icky pings

really?
I thought his posting looked towny.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was hoping to solve this game before the weekend

Here let me help you
I'm town.

[Ouroboros]

I think that he's town but the specific way that he posts is something I've seen a lot from midrange scum where (a bunch of things) but yes meta makes him town.

[Tchill13]

Townreads

Tchill
Davesaz
Alchemist21
Hebichan
Our slot obvobv

Lazy townreads

Dunnstral

well i TR this slot because i agree with most of these.

[Alchemist21]

No I'm pretty sure everyone agreed it was the way they claimed not the claim itself. Can I persuade you to help me run up Ramcius?

I spectated that Bastard game GIF modded, it seems to me that Ramcius is the type of player that plays in a way that rubs ppl the wrong way and ends up getting himself lynched, ill give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

This sort of thing is what I'm worried about since the last game I played had a D1 VI lynch and I don't want to repeat that. That's why I asked Maria about him, to see if he's known to be a VI. But I still can't get over how his jump onto Wilky looked like he just wanted RC to stop pushing him. Do you think that's something Town Ramcius would do?

[Ouroboros]

i could hop on wilky wagon but i want to resolve tchill first

I think some of that shade splattered on my coat...

@verylazy

- Explain.

VOTE: verylazy

Ghost

[Ramcius]

No I'm pretty sure everyone agreed it was the way they claimed not the claim itself. Can I persuade you to help me run up Ramcius?

I spectated that Bastard game GIF modded, it seems to me that Ramcius is the type of player that plays in a way that rubs ppl the wrong way and ends up getting himself lynched, ill give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

This sort of thing is what I'm worried about since the last game I played had a D1 VI lynch and I don't want to repeat that. That's why I asked Maria about him, to see if he's known to be a VI. But I still can't get over how his jump onto Wilky looked like he just wanted RC to stop pushing him. Do you think that's something Town Ramcius would do?

I just realised i can't change RC mind and going against him would ended in my own lynch, so i decided settle for my 2nd scumread and give RC his way. There are people i feel like arguing and there are people i try reason a bit and just give their way, if they seems unmovable.

As for VI, i disagree with that, it's just that people find my methods scummy or rather not up to this site meta and i get ML'ed way too often D1 to my liking.

Also, we played in Beneath the Mask, so you have some first hand experience with me and my methods

[Alchemist21]

I really don't remember much from Beneath the Mask aside from the Mulch-based drama, though your avi was familiar to me.

Also I was asking Kaede about you partially to try getting a read on her. I keep looking at the early interactiin between Kaede and Maria but can't get any reads based off of it.

How come you didn't say you thought Wilky was scummy before you voted there? The way you were talking made it sound like you trusted both Miller claims as Town with scum Tchill taking advantage of the situation.

[Alchemist21]

The funny thing is that iirc the Mulch-based drama was partially because he was scum fakeclaiming Miller and people wanted to PL him. Lol

[Ramcius]

I really don't remember much from Beneath the Mask aside from the Mulch-based drama, though your avi was familiar to me.

Also I was asking Kaede about you partially to try getting a read on her. I keep looking at the early interactiin between Kaede and Maria but can't get any reads based off of it.

How come you didn't say you thought Wilky was scummy before you voted there? The way you were talking made it sound like you trusted both Miller claims as Town with scum Tchill taking advantage of the situation.

"Let's lynch Tchill, we can vig Wilky, if needed" sounds to you like Wilky is town to me?

[Alchemist21]

well, in my past large themes there wasn't, but i trust you on this

still, i'd prefer Tchill over Wilky, he came after both miller claims, so i feel it might be scum trying take advantage of miller claims

final answer
I would lean it a few percentage points towards it being his town meta although this result isn't especially conclusive
definitely enough to not want to lynch him today, yall can clusterfuck him later in the game when me and anony are gone if you want

@Ramcius???????????????????????????????????????????????????/
How the fuck is he scum trying to take advantage of miller claims in what way does claiming that as scum take advantage of miller claims?

Are you believe some weird hider claim that isn't weak? Or it's more likely scum trying smuggle in some fishy claim during confusion caused by millers and attracting less attention than it would get normally, and simultaneously getting protection form investigative roles?

It was these 2 posts that gave me the impression, but I do see where I missed the implied Wilky scumread in that first one.

UNVOTE:

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Uhh, I claimed Town so people didnt need to bother reading me.

[ManWithNoName]

VOTE: Kaede

Either she's just trolling, or she's very carefully posting as much as she can which is NAI. Show, don't tell.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Show, don't tell.

Sure, will do

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh GIF's not around, now that comment ended up being kinda anti climatic.
I guess I'll have to prove my townyness later.

[Alchemist21]

Yeah the "I claimed Town" bit has gotten old. She has the 2nd highest post count in the game and she's still dead null to me, and that's a problem.

@Kaede

What are all your current thoughts on the game?