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[Draynth]

pretty sure that's l-1 btw

[PenguinPower]

Probably.

[Ginngie]

idunno if it's just me

but like

I see a smith game lasting the entire two weeks every single time lol

[Porkens]

Penguin
Ginnie
Gork
Hydra
Eddie

At least 2 scrum in there.

[Porkens]

Draynth scummy too

[Jingle]

Draynth (1)

Almost50 ,

Porkens (5)

Draynth , Gorkington , Titus , Ginngie , Stop Getting Banned Again PenguinPower

Titus (3)

, Punreader , EspeciallyTheLies , eddie , L-1

Punreader (2)

Nosferatu , ,

SGBA (1) Porkens ,

Not Voting (1)

Jingle ,

I'm really not grooving on the wagon comp for this being 3 null reads, tn, and a townread that's been largely absent.

Much, much happier with

VOTE: Nos

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Jingle who is the townread that's been absent?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

how did porkens wagon happen?

i'd vote there. i'm ready for this day to end.

[Porkens]

This is me not self voting.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

This is me not self voting.

ok...?

did you ever answer me about titus?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

how did porkens wagon happen?

i'd vote there. i'm ready for this day to end.

actually i take this back based on most recent porkens posts. bleh. i forgot a lot about this game.

[Jingle]

Jingle who is the townread that's been absent?

Draynth is town by strength of Mulchread.

Not reevaluating there without strong reasoning.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I would not vote:
SGBA
Jingle
Gork
Ginngie

I would vote:
Titus - bleh this slot really shouldn't live past D1 in its current condition.
Nos
Eddie - not as strong as Nos and thinking might be a style conflict issue actually, but not sure yet.

The rest are meh... This is about where I stand right now.

VOTE: Nos

p-edit: oh, ok. gotcha. is that a trustable read for me? because I don't really have much on either mulch or draynth.

[Jingle]

I'm happier with Titus, but she's still not town. The vote is actually slightly townish from her because she didn't just jump onto the pun wagon. Added, the wagon comp on her being you, pun, and eddie and still mostly policy is a MAJOR red flag.

Gork has been mostly forgettable despite being present, and I don't know why. You seem to think town tho, so I'm trusting that for today.

Porkens was earlydays town but hasn't done much since, and has slipped more null, but the wagon feels almost exactly like the 2IAMill wagon in JJ's game.

TN's wall on Porkens is hard to parse, and I'll get to that in between calculations today.

Ging's vote was pretty blech.

PP's everything has been pretty blech, but all of my townreads said town there, so I'm guessing this is a Jingle-tunnel and ignoring my gut.

Nos, on the other hand, makes a lot of sense as an eddie partner if Eddie is scum. Her contributions sum up to a wall case on pun that looked like something fabricated, and a spurt of activity every time someone talks about suspecting her. There's a ton of tacit approval for the wagon without the wagon actually showing up. Pretty much my only reservation here is pun's statement that she's scummy regardless of alignment, and pun hasn't come back to talk about that recently, although I may have dreamed asking for that.

[Porkens]

This is me not self voting.

ok...?

did you ever answer me about titus?

if I were scum I would self hammer and end the day now.

[Porkens]

how did porkens wagon happen?

i'd vote there. i'm ready for this day to end.

YES this is the question!

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Spoiler: all porkens votes

wat is the plan

Target Stop Getting Banned.
Claim result ASAP after daystart.
Fill in chart AFTER everyone has claimed.
Either split investigations or reevaluate depending on random distribution/possible sanities.

I'm fine with this fyi

VOTE: Porkens

Not Voting (3)PenguinPower , Jingle ,

Porkens

both of you need to start using your votes and taking more meaningful stances.
pretty not okay to be sitting on a no vote right now.

VOTE: eddie

It's omgus

okay if youre going to be doing this right now
you should be hardcasing eddie.
theres three days left until deadline.
there should be way more of a sense of urgency here.

@a50

, hbd im condensing your draynthpoints for you because the wallpost makes it harder to digest them.

i) he never followed up on a question when a50 didnt answer it
ii) he questioned someone else's scumread on someone he was also scumreading
iii) he voted someone in the middle of his readlist

@draynth

, want to see you respond to this.

IMPORTANT:

Scum!Titus defends her scum partners by necessity. Scum!Titus will always find a way to launch a counter wagon to one on herself or on a buddy of hers.

Conclusion: Titus is very likely town here.

why is titus trying to push sgba not her trying to create a counterwagon on herself? whats the distinction between her doing that here and her doing that in a scumgame?

and frankly, ive seen titus break that meta intentionally before as scum [ie: ive seen her bus scummates]. i feel like this isnt taking into account a lot of factors, including whether titus has the time or effort to actually play the game the way she would be wanting to?

Target Stop Getting Banned.
Claim result ASAP after daystart.
Fill in chart AFTER everyone has claimed.
Either split investigations or reevaluate depending on random distribution/possible sanities.

are you townreading the hydra right now?
because i kind of feel like your plan falls apart if we arent all consensus reading the hydra as town at this point.

@everyone in the game

theres three days left in this game.
i want everyone to take a hard stance on porkens, titus and punreader.

[AND GIVE REASONS.]

and either vote in that pool or argue really fucking hard for why we should be expanding the lynchpool right now, or im going to assume that youre sidelining intentionally.
please and thank you.

for where im at, porkens vote is just completely useless and i dont feel like theyre honestly trying to get eddie lynched at all right now, which feels especially awful given how little time is left in the day.

vote: porkens

hoping to get a titus ISOdive done this aft, but as of right now im willing to vote titus for deadline if porkens towns it up.

Hydra and Eddie scum..

*sees Punreader is counter wagon*

Fuck.

VOTE: Porkens

Not sure if I even trust A50 as it could be wking me but I TR punreader.

@Penguin why the vote?

Its gork and at least that head of the stupid hydra

If you don't mind me saying so, that's not particularly convincing.
Please iso dive me, I signed all but one of my posts with "~tn5421". The one I didn't was where I blind posted the "Nice Jingle" 100% Orange Juice card.
Show me that you have a reason for this read other than "lol because I say so".

If you're town, I want to work with you to lynch the actual scum.

~tn5421

You are scared.

Its better if i vote here.
VOTE: SGBA

If anyone here is scared it's you. This is blatant scum bull, especially in context with your previous behavior. You don't want to town? Fine. Get out.

VOTE: Porkens

~tn5421

VOTE: Porkens

Draynth

- I don't really follow the trajectory here? He was poking at Gorkington primarily until Porkens voted for Titus, which he later says "still fine with a porkens lynch though *shrug*" which suggests that he's not feeling very strongly about it.

Gork

- this vote seems like.. a convenience vote? I don't really get it. Titus appears to be his preferred lynch for today, which I'm inclined to agree is the right move.

Titus

- what on earth is post 1022? I don't even.. Is she actually doing things now? Why is she voting Porkens? Actually post 1024 looks a lot better than her earlier posts, and kind of thinking maybe she does need to sub out if she's legitimately not motivated to even play regardless of alignment...?

SGBA

- tn's vote here is the only one of the whole wagon I can actually follow. This is a shit wagon yall... especially given the last ditch effort to inject information pre-death by porkens.

PenguinPower

- whole ISO is garbage tbh... kept asking for input and got told they would be catching up and we'd talk later, and did not.

VOTE: PENGUINPOWER

Guys this is legitimately scum and we need to lynch it rtfn.

[Porkens]

I demand an independent 3rd party arbitrate my wagon.

[Porkens]

VOTE: Penguin Power

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Jingle I will not accept anything less than a penguin vote.

[Porkens]

Spoiler: all porkens votes

wat is the plan

Target Stop Getting Banned.
Claim result ASAP after daystart.
Fill in chart AFTER everyone has claimed.
Either split investigations or reevaluate depending on random distribution/possible sanities.

I'm fine with this fyi

VOTE: Porkens

Not Voting (3)PenguinPower , Jingle ,

Porkens

both of you need to start using your votes and taking more meaningful stances.
pretty not okay to be sitting on a no vote right now.

VOTE: eddie

It's omgus

okay if youre going to be doing this right now
you should be hardcasing eddie.
theres three days left until deadline.
there should be way more of a sense of urgency here.

@a50

, hbd im condensing your draynthpoints for you because the wallpost makes it harder to digest them.

i) he never followed up on a question when a50 didnt answer it
ii) he questioned someone else's scumread on someone he was also scumreading
iii) he voted someone in the middle of his readlist

@draynth

, want to see you respond to this.

IMPORTANT:

Scum!Titus defends her scum partners by necessity. Scum!Titus will always find a way to launch a counter wagon to one on herself or on a buddy of hers.

Conclusion: Titus is very likely town here.

why is titus trying to push sgba not her trying to create a counterwagon on herself? whats the distinction between her doing that here and her doing that in a scumgame?

and frankly, ive seen titus break that meta intentionally before as scum [ie: ive seen her bus scummates]. i feel like this isnt taking into account a lot of factors, including whether titus has the time or effort to actually play the game the way she would be wanting to?

Target Stop Getting Banned.
Claim result ASAP after daystart.
Fill in chart AFTER everyone has claimed.
Either split investigations or reevaluate depending on random distribution/possible sanities.

are you townreading the hydra right now?
because i kind of feel like your plan falls apart if we arent all consensus reading the hydra as town at this point.

@everyone in the game

theres three days left in this game.
i want everyone to take a hard stance on porkens, titus and punreader.

[AND GIVE REASONS.]

and either vote in that pool or argue really fucking hard for why we should be expanding the lynchpool right now, or im going to assume that youre sidelining intentionally.
please and thank you.

for where im at, porkens vote is just completely useless and i dont feel like theyre honestly trying to get eddie lynched at all right now, which feels especially awful given how little time is left in the day.

vote: porkens

hoping to get a titus ISOdive done this aft, but as of right now im willing to vote titus for deadline if porkens towns it up.

Hydra and Eddie scum..

*sees Punreader is counter wagon*

Fuck.

VOTE: Porkens

Not sure if I even trust A50 as it could be wking me but I TR punreader.

@Penguin why the vote?

Its gork and at least that head of the stupid hydra

If you don't mind me saying so, that's not particularly convincing.
Please iso dive me, I signed all but one of my posts with "~tn5421". The one I didn't was where I blind posted the "Nice Jingle" 100% Orange Juice card.
Show me that you have a reason for this read other than "lol because I say so".

If you're town, I want to work with you to lynch the actual scum.

~tn5421

You are scared.

Its better if i vote here.
VOTE: SGBA

If anyone here is scared it's you. This is blatant scum bull, especially in context with your previous behavior. You don't want to town? Fine. Get out.

VOTE: Porkens

~tn5421

VOTE: Porkens

Draynth

- I don't really follow the trajectory here? He was poking at Gorkington primarily until Porkens voted for Titus, which he later says "still fine with a porkens lynch though *shrug*" which suggests that he's not feeling very strongly about it.

Gork

- this vote seems like.. a convenience vote? I don't really get it. Titus appears to be his preferred lynch for today, which I'm inclined to agree is the right move.

Titus

- what on earth is post 1022? I don't even.. Is she actually doing things now? Why is she voting Porkens? Actually post 1024 looks a lot better than her earlier posts, and kind of thinking maybe she does need to sub out if she's legitimately not motivated to even play regardless of alignment...?

SGBA

- tn's vote here is the only one of the whole wagon I can actually follow. This is a shit wagon yall... especially given the last ditch effort to inject information pre-death by porkens.

PenguinPower

- whole ISO is garbage tbh... kept asking for input and got told they would be catching up and we'd talk later, and did not.

VOTE: PENGUINPOWER

Guys this is legitimately scum and we need to lynch it rtfn.

I demand an independent 3rd party arbitrate my wagon.

simulpost, btw

[EspeciallyTheLies]

To everyone:

if you're not going to vote for Penguin, you need to convince me why they are town. Not why another person is a better lynch, but

why Penguin is town

because if you have no good argument, I expect your vote to move there ASAP.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Penguin -

yes, absolutely, 100%

Ginnie -

eh... not likely.

Gork -

no

Hydra -

no

Eddie -

maybe

At least 2 scrum in there.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

TITUS

come back please. Talk to me more about Eddie.

[Jingle]

I'd say it's highly trustable. I can't point to why though, for reasons. If someone who can corroborate the reasons other than the mod replaces into the game, I'll let you guys know (This would be Ellibereth, beeboy, Alisae, fferyllt, Ether, or Mathblade, fwiw). If I become able to link to places where I've talked about the ability it'll happen. Until then, I'd say it's somewhere between my ability to read you and my ability to read aphix. (I think you are more likely to be able to snow me, because you at least know that I can read you fairly well. Mulch should have had no idea at the beginning of the game.)