Micro 801: 2 Mafia, 1 Vigilante, 6 Townies (Game Over)

[RadiantCowbells]

{RC}
{NSG, probably, if she's scum I'm going to tear the shit out of her if she tries to slank in the future so I'll take it}
{TW/Ceejay}
{GL/Fumuki}

I"m going to do one last reread and see where I stand

[GuiltyLion]

Well...jokes aside If I go wild I could see NSG trying to be minimalistic to coast along to endgame...

But I think that's not the case...definitely lynch and vig inside Invisibility wagon.

plus this is one of those things that I usually want to call a scumslip but everyone always scumreads me/gets mad for calling them scumslips - even though they turn out to be right more than 50% of the time

claiming that NSG could be scum but then saying "but probably not, we need to lynch and vig inside the Invisibility wagon" in a way that implies some kind of reversal shows that Fumuki isn't really fully cognizant of the fact that NSG was on the Invisibility wagon. if town!Fumuki was genuinely looking in the Invisibility wagon for scum, NSG would definitely be in that pool. more fitting explanation is that scum!Fumuki doesn't really care who was on Invisibility

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll lynch fumuki if everyone agrees that I'm not scum.

[callforjudgement]

Vote Count

Fumuki

(1): GuiltyLion

northsidegal

(1): RadiantCowbells

Not voting

: northsidegal, Fumuki, the worst, ceejayvinoya

With 6 players alive, 4 votes are required to lynch.
The deadline

can be extended

, but is currently Saturday 12 May at 10:40 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2018-05-12 10:40:00)

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[RadiantCowbells]

if I'm in contention to be lynched/vigged then I am going to sit here until I'm sure I know who the scum is.

[the worst]

rc obvscum

[the worst]

Balance of all things I don't think you're likely to be scum nah

Obviously consider all angles in LyLo (if I survive the night) but that just is what it is

[ceejayvinoya]

Sorry I'm late. Let me do some catch;ng up. I think fumuki is town btw.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright we're doing this the hard way then.

Ceejay, give reads and thoughts on the game please.

[ceejayvinoya]

My townread on Fumuki is because he did his best to engage lurkers (me especially). At d1, he wasn't really against a shaddowez lynch, he just wants to hear more from the slot first. He even extended the deadline in the process.

[RadiantCowbells]

That is a pretty shallow read. Maybe he was engaging lurkers because his partner was on the chopping block and he wanted someone else to be a viable mislynch?

[ceejayvinoya]

actually I probably want to lynch Invisibility more than shaddowez but I'm too lazy to count the votes at the moment

Invisibility is on L-4 and Shaddow in L-2 I think.

Invisibility is definitely in my lynch pool, and depending of what Shaddow comes and post here I'm not going to be a scapegoat by defending lynchbait for a third time.

For me we either lynch Invisibility, Shaddow depending of what he posts or GL, although in GL case I want to wait more (if he's town he might be a good ally, although it doesn't sound like he's town for me so far)....

By partner you would mean shaddowez, who is also a lurker. Lurking is nai, and seeing that Fumuki wants to sort that slot based on content is town to me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I really have difficulty buying that's an actual read that you have.

[RadiantCowbells]

(Also Fumuki explicitly gave them a town read for... being scummy because apparently they wouldn't be scummy if they were actually scum...?)

Honestly I'm starting to think Fumuki has decent town equity so that's making GL seem more likely but also making me want to reconsider you since my TR on you is kinda a meme.

[RadiantCowbells]

NSG are you sure you're not me

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm reading your ISO again and I'm getting the distinct impression that I'm reading my own ISO at points.

[Fumuki]

heh, RC, it's just that you guys don't have some valuable info I guess (that we can't disclose here).

With this alone I'm confident in saying that CJ is my other town lean. If this was scum!CJ you could be 101% sure that:

1. He would have gone around asking silly questions
2. Would not defend me like that
3. Would sheep the hell out of anyone that said anything to him just as well change of opinion if pressed in something less concrete

Said that, I'm confident scum is in [GL, RC, TW]

I said that it was better to push CJ and I sort him out but "no, it's a waste of time".

[RadiantCowbells]

But in other news: how sure are you that Ceejay is actually town? I was fine giving them a lazy townread but now Fumuki's kinda towned up, TW I was never scumreading, there's you, there's GL and there's CJ and like There really isn't a good reason to townread CJ I think.

1. He would have gone around asking silly questions
2. Would not defend me like that
3. Would sheep the hell out of anyone that said anything to him just as well change of opinion if pressed in something less concrete

Your ideas of what scum would and wouldn't do are frankly awful and you need to stop basing reads on them.

[Fumuki]

(Also Fumuki explicitly gave them a town read for... being scummy because apparently they wouldn't be scummy if they were actually scum...?)

No like, you can ask for NSG now and she'll pretty much confirm how that sounds like town!CJ, and his read on me is something that we can't talk here and if you aren't scum just trying to derail things, you should check out a little of my games

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean we can clusterfuck GL but where do we go if he's town?

[RadiantCowbells]

It may not sound specifically different from his scum game but who says that his scum game is going to be hugely different from that?

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay I did my own work and I'll say... okay?

So then it's probably just GL, yeah?

[Fumuki]

But in other news: how sure are you that Ceejay is actually town? I was fine giving them a lazy townread but now Fumuki's kinda towned up, TW I was never scumreading, there's you, there's GL and there's CJ and like

There really isn't a good reason to townread CJ I think.

Your ideas of what scum would and wouldn't do are frankly awful and you need to stop basing reads on them

.

Okay, before I get going let me explain something:

Shaddow town lean was based in a "by the weird fumuki book's" logic and I see your point in calling it awful.

CJ town lean is based in meta and his personality and it has nothing to do with how I did town lean Shaddow, same thing can be said about NSG.

I'll apologize postgame if CJ flips scum, but anyone here can bet sure as hell in my read on him and he probably isn't flipping scum here.

[RadiantCowbells]

No dude like your meta read on him can be fine let's not talk about ongoing games but your read on what CJ would definitely do and what Shaddow would definitely do are both horribly wrong.
Like CJ white knighting you is probably more scum indicative than him hard pushing your mislynch. I'm not saying this to be mean or call you scum I'm saying that you're wrong.

[northsidegal]

NSG are you sure you're not me

I'm reading your ISO again and I'm getting the distinct impression that I'm reading my own ISO at points.

i don't know what it feels like, but if i had to guess what being RC felt like, i would say that recently i've been feeling that way.