Micro 800-B: "Normal" Stock Photos Mafia [Endgame]

[UnaBombaH]

I know I'm utterly below the level of everyone else in this game, but I DO have a knack for noticing nuances in interactions.
It's just putting them to words I suck at.. so much good I am then!
Anyhow, I have a vibe from Ranmaru-chamber.
They are either both town like I initially thought, or they are both scum..thoughts?

[Ranmaru]

If you have trouble with the words, you can quote what makes you feel Maria is scum, and why it would lock town Mastina to you. You should explain that sooner then later.

[UnaBombaH]

I think you misunderstand me here..
Have some patience with me.

[Ranmaru]

I don't understand what you are waiting for. How confident are you in MariaR being scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm voting for Maria, because I want to lynch scum today.

They are either both town like I initially thought, or they are both scum..thoughts?

Does not compute.

I feel like you're treating today as if it were D1 and we hadn't mislynched already. You project a confidence in scum reading maria that is contradicted a handful of posts later when you allude to the possibility that Chamber and Ranmaru could possibly be SvS.

If Maria is conf!scum to you then it follows that there is only one more possibility for scum from your PoV so as town the natural thought would be to assume that Chamber and Ranmaru are both town. It reads to me like you're pushing an agenda, to make your cake (maria mislynch) and eat it too (cast shade on others in the process).

Tomorrow is possibly Lylo and your confidence is clearly unfounded and reckless...unless of course you're scum.

[UnaBombaH]

You project a confidence in scum reading maria that is contradicted a handful of posts later when you allude to the possibility that Chamber and Ranmaru could possibly be SvS.

You raise a valid point..!
Except that there's the fact that I already said I think it's more likely they are just both town.
My main point being that I don't think it's ever T/S either way around.
I obviously understand that if Maria flips scum, them being S/S becomes impossible -

what I therefore find interesting is that you can't see my eagerness to lynch Maria with all of this in mind.

I THINK Maria will flip scum, I THINK it will promptly confirm both chamber and Ranmaru as town, and I THINK we are close to locking the game away after that.

[UnaBombaH]

It reads to me like you're pushing an agenda, to make your cake (maria mislynch) and eat it too (cast shade on others in the process).

This must've risen either from scum-intent on your part, or from the fact that you misinterpreted my asking for others thoughts on the two slots.
I wanted to hear thoughts to see if anyone thinks they could ever be T/S either way around - I don't think they can.

[CheekyTeeky]

You project a confidence in scum reading maria that is contradicted a handful of posts later when you allude to the possibility that Chamber and Ranmaru could possibly be SvS.

You raise a valid point..!
Except that there's the fact that I already said I think it's more likely they are just both town.
My main point being that I don't think it's ever T/S either way around.
I obviously understand that if Maria flips scum, them being S/S becomes impossible -

what I therefore find interesting is that you can't see my eagerness to lynch Maria with all of this in mind.

I THINK Maria will flip scum, I THINK it will promptly confirm both chamber and Ranmaru as town, and I THINK we are close to locking the game away after that.

I've pointed to why your confidence/eagerness is fake and I have also judged it reckless. A reasonable explanation here would have been that you were trying to elicit a reaction by wagoning Maria and that you are confident for x, y and z reasons. Instead you've failed to give an explicit reason for why you scum read her and instead you just project completely unfounded confidence. I'm not really sure if enthusiasm is a convincing argument to lynch someone when we still have the mastina issue to deal to with potentially only 1 mislynch left. Please help us see why you are so confident and why we should wagon Maria.

I would also like you to explain why you're completely ignoring the mastina issue which you sat on a fence on earlier. You stated that this is not out of her scum range in terms of "boldness" while simultaneously town reading her? How can we not lynch mastina today? What choice do we have and what info do you have that proves her town?

While you're on an explaining spree, could you also say how you came to the conclusion Chamber and Ranmaru are not SvT without falling back on claims?

[UnaBombaH]

Ech.
I'll post a longer explanation when I get on computer.
So tomorrow or saturday.
I feel like Cheeky is trying hard to twist my words here..

[UnaBombaH]

A reasonable explanation here would have been that you were trying to elicit a reaction by wagoning Maria and that you are confident for x, y and z reasons.

Yet here you struck gold, for whatever reason.
But of course mastina isn't around when I try to bait them in particular.
I'm tired.

[MariaR]

Or. You're just not explaining yeah that seems to be the case. I'll save you the trouble so I don't gotta bruise your ego. I'm town

[UnaBombaH]

I got no ego to bruise..
I'd bet mine is the smallest on site - and you can quote me on that.
Even out of context.

[MariaR]

I like you already

[Ranmaru]

Errant, I can see you thinking I'm a driving force, but I don't think I'm

trying

to be,

I just am

. Do you think that's alignment indicative? I am willing to hear why you think I'm doing a poor job at it though. Regardless, I don't think this is The Thing Mafia you, this seems different, more like an enigma. Yet I like that you are trying to weigh the evidence with Mastina, even though I think you are giving her too much benefit of the doubt. When it comes to lynching Mastina or not, I choose that

we are

. (Also just now realized you had exams, makes sense, also just got out of my sister's graduation) I also never meant to rush you, I just wanted to leave a reminder for you and Una, since the thread became slow. Also, can you quote the post that Una made that you town read slightly?

[MariaR]

I should've started pushing ramm to see if they insult me like the thing mafia it'd' be ez game

[Ranmaru]

Too late now. :p How are you reading Cheeky right now?

[MariaR]

cheeky seems like she's trying to solve but I don't see her pushes going anywhere it's weird

[Ranmaru]

I actually think this page solidifies my town read on Cheeky.

[chamber]

I'm having a lot of trouble following the progression of your reads, ran.

[Ranmaru]

Generally wanted to wait for Cheeky v Una to resolve to show my progression, but here you go:

I have talked to Singer about Chamber. On Chamber's argument of me, I was just weirded out by his interactions with my slot within the neighborhood and the thread. It felt like a scum sided move, and I would rather not keep it a secret any longer if he didn't find it beneficial. Singer is convinced that he is town from his reactions to my pressure and his reasoning, which seem genuine to her. Overall, I don't get a townie vibe from him, yet will trust Singer on that and put him back to null. I don't think Chamber really gives [me] much to read by, himself and I don't think he sees that. (I also find it town indicative that Maria was also indecisive about Chamber)

If you're town Chamber, you're wrong on myself and MariaR. I feel you are just focusing on our playstyles and not our intent as much. If you think my questions are awful, fine, talk to me about it in end-game and I'll be open to hearing how I can improve my questioning. I do feel that if you're town you need to work on your town cohesion a bit more. I haven't seen any town reads from you and instead you just have scumreads that you push back. I also was waiting for you to mention my wiki page, as I messed it up and the links go to places that aren't actually games I've played in. So I'd like to know which games you read besides the Civ game. I will say that my entrances in older games had not been similar to recent entrances, and I think that's due to many factors.

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#304 and #307 solidify my town read on Cheeky. I also determine that Una is scum from the previous page and this page. He lurks to the point of catching up, and then votes Maria while ignoring the Mastina issue. Upon Mastina scum, Una is scum.

TOWN [Ranmaru > Cheeky > MariaR > Errant | Chamber | Una > Mastina] SCUM

[chamber]

No need for a wiki

[Ranmaru]

That's fair then.

[chamber]

Also I put no value in town cohesion or town reads. Scum read everyone to varying amounts.

[Ranmaru]

Lame. I do want to know your opinion of Una.

[CheekyTeeky]

Also I put no value in town cohesion or town reads. Scum read everyone to varying amounts.

Who's your biggest SR? Like if you had to lynch and Martina hadn't derphammered, who's scum?