Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]
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1422/1423 abt lalen @ the world
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No, Lovebird is being a dick. Or is scum pretending to be bad town. Would lynch in both cases.
The problem was that you were not getting your reasoning across. Give me your thoughts on Lovebird in exchange for me voting Lalendra?Rawr!
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lovebird null (has dropped) which is while concerning not as annoying to me rn as a scumread
if there's a genuine dichotomy in ausuka/lovebird lovebird is scum like 65% of the time I think-
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Lalendra Mafia Scum
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I have much less scum experience so I tend to be pretty aggressive and tunnel on people moreso than I do as town.In post 1309, Eddie Cane wrote:
your town and scum gameIn post 1306, Lalendra wrote:
Whose alignments?In post 1299, Eddie Cane wrote:lalendra, do you think theres any major differences in your alignments?Show"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
"nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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I didn't like that he was so against setup speccing. It didn't make sense, from a town perspective, to try to shut down any attempt at gamesolving. There's nothing inherently wrong with focusing on other people's reads, unless you are doing so to the exclusion of forming your own, which is what it seemed like he was doing.
I understand your point about the draft, however, it's really important to note that scum are not likely to pick duplicate numbers. You really can use the draft numbers to theorize about alignment because yes, while both alignments are trying to get power roles, scum are the only ones able to make a concerted effort not to step on one another's toes.
Re: your walls - your posts tend to be extremely lengthy and I have a hard time motivating myself to read them as a result. However, the one game I played with you before, you played the same way, so I don't think it's AI for you; it's just how you play.
Yes, I definitely see an associative between Ircher and Ausuka.
The explanation of his readslist doesn't really change my thinking, because a) I wasn't really basing my read on that to begin with and b) he still didn't have any strong reads, just nulls and leans. Not a problem in and of itself, but waffly, and not really that different from my original interpretation of a readslist that is largely useless.Show"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
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but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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...You're making reads without remembering why? And just coasting on that instead of taking new information into account?In post 1345, Lovebird wrote:Mathdino
mutantdevle
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis
Ausuka
the worst
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Lalendra
Myloninja13
The Janitor
Lovebird
Iconeum
Taly
Ircher
Couldn't remember reasons for janitor town, same with mylo. Only taking out eddie and mutant because I think ausuka is scum.Show"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
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but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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The thing people seem to keep forgetting when harping on my fluffposting is that we were still within hours of the game starting. It exploded over the weekend and I did my best to catch up and contribute meaningful content at that point.In post 1419, the worst wrote:
Hardcore buddying/TMI vibes on Math if he's town. This is a response to POST ELEVEN.In post 221, Lalendra wrote:Inclined to sheep you because you're always power-town and better at this game than I'll ever be
But curious - If you have Beefster/Taly in the same bracket in terms of probability of being scum, why did you choose one over the other?
Fluffposts like a mofo until
Needlessly self consciously sheeping the obvious consensusIn post 1076, Lalendra wrote:
I am inclined to agree with everything Mutant says here but holding off on voting til I finish catching up.In post 415, mutantdevle wrote:
VOTE: IrcherIn post 409, Ircher wrote:That’s super irrelevant; when did you think I thought MathDino was MathBlade?
You've been tingling my scum sensors ever since your second post but I decided not to vote you because I wanted to see where the janitor wagon would go.
This post bothers me because it reacts to brass' comment as though it was supposed to be game solving. Furthermore, the question here is phrased in a way that tries to appear like its game solving itself. Honestly, this just feels like scum trying to look busy.
Add that to how Ircher seems intent on shutting down any form of setup spec and seems to focus too much on other people's reads (in my opinion) and judge them based on that. That makes me comfortable with this vote.
Fluffs until catchup posts, catchup posts contain nothing but randomly sheeping popular opinion and stating random non analytical things about game state
Constant buddying of Math, constant "active lurking", super generic reads
Literally a badscum iso fmpovShow"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
"nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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Didn't really pay attention to anyone else's scumreads when putting that together, I literally just went through the playerlist in the mod's OP and wrote down my thoughts.In post 1422, the worst wrote:so reads list is bad bc it mega generically sheeps math/eddie/simyk/taly type townreads for the most part
highly overexplains itself with incredibly shallow reasoning
poe's ausuka and ircher as their only two scum reads which like
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if anyone thinks ausuka and ircher are scum together let's throw down a bet rnShow"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
"nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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The Ircher wagon clearly isn't going anywhere and I'm not a fan of Lovebird's recent posting at all. I agree that either they are bad town, or they're obvscum. Slightly torn because it seems like a too-scummy-to-be-scum situation, but this slot is a liability at the very least. Add to that that this is the only wagon that is currently rivaling mine and it's a no-brainer.In post 1426, Iconeum wrote:No, Lovebird is being a dick. Or is scum pretending to be bad town. Would lynch in both cases.
VOTE: LovebirdShow"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
"nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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Yes, let's cast anti-town votes just to exchange information. Ugh, this town deserves to lose.
Show"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
"nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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Since I am at L-2, does the group want me to claim, or hold off?Show"Lalendra is her usual mislynch self." - FlavorLeaf
"Lal was interesting. I wavered from okay that could be a confused townie to WTF." - StefanB
"nothing in lalendra's ISO suggests town
but then again nothing in lalendra's entire career suggests town" - Mathdino
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christ it's 4 days left?
i prefer lynching you over lovebird
which sucks because i townread lovebird's wagon so much more
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In post 1426, Iconeum wrote:No, Lovebird is being a dick. Or is scum pretending to be bad town. Would lynch in both cases.
The problem was that you were not getting your reasoning across. Give me your thoughts on Lovebird in exchange for me voting Lalendra?In post 1427, the worst wrote:lovebird null (has dropped) which is while concerning not as annoying to me rn as a scumread
if there's a genuine dichotomy in ausuka/lovebird lovebird is scum like 65% of the time I thinkWell this is scummy...
Did you really need to bribe the worst with your vote to get this information from him? I guarantee you would have got this had you just asked. NGL this feels like a clever way to be on Lalendra's wagon whilst being somewhat against it.I mostly just lurk now.-
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Reread his iso as though hes Lalendra's partner tooIn post 1442, mutantdevle wrote:In post 1426, Iconeum wrote:No, Lovebird is being a dick. Or is scum pretending to be bad town. Would lynch in both cases.
The problem was that you were not getting your reasoning across. Give me your thoughts on Lovebird in exchange for me voting Lalendra?In post 1427, the worst wrote:lovebird null (has dropped) which is while concerning not as annoying to me rn as a scumread
if there's a genuine dichotomy in ausuka/lovebird lovebird is scum like 65% of the time I thinkWell this is scummy...
Did you really need to bribe the worst with your vote to get this information from him? I guarantee you would have got this had you just asked. NGL this feels like a clever way to be on Lalendra's wagon whilst being somewhat against it.
honestly......regardless of her flip I think I'm running up Ico tmrw-
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VOTE: Lovebird
this is very likely to flip scum and has been for a while. town!lovebird is generally accurate at reading me, and when I played with scum!Lovebird, she manipulated the meta of her having caught me before and said I was scum by meta. she got caught by giving terrible reasoning for me being scum by meta last time; that's probably why she isn't giving a reason this time. and I'm definitely seeing a lovebird scumgame in this.
lalendra scumread is partially based on early uselessness; but what is also suspicious to me is the way she jumped onto the Ircher wagon. she seems to be trying to justify a scumread on Ircher to join that game; specifically the bit where she accuses Ircher of being "weirdly defensive" and comments on how Ircher would prefer Lalendra to be lynched- she seems to be suggesting the latter is a scumtell, which is especially ??? to me. The read doesn't look real. Lalendra and Lovebird are voting each other, but I believe this (distancing from each other and making it look like TvS) is probably the best move if they're scumpartners- I would advise against clearing one of being scum if the other flips scum.
I think scum!mutant is a very real possibility here. I think he's being generally townread but if you find there's scum hiding in the townreads I think you should look there.
{Taly, SIMYK, Ircher, tw, dave} would be my townreads right now (all three scum probably here), {math, eddie, Janitor} seem town in general but I wouldn't be surprised if any of those slots flipped scum, {Iconeum} is somewhat scummy but self-resolving, {Mylo, Mutant} are both meh, and {Lovebird, Lalendra} are my scumreads. I doubt my reads will change drastically soon, they haven't exactly been doing so recently, so these can serve as last words, if I do get vigged, which has quite a high chance.
it's definitely possible my reads are totally off; I haven't been 100% involved w/ this game, especially recently, and my play has been getting worse recently since I have less time and effort to dedicate to the game. this is the reason I haven't been posting nearly as much recently, not that I'm still upset about being assigned to be vigged without getting a say in the matter when Lovebird has done literally nothing towny the whole game, but I think I probably at least have a few things right.
pedit: I think we should just leave Iconeum alone until D3 or so, personally.Reach for my hand, I'll soar away into the dawn-
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What? How?In post 1388, Iconeum wrote:Either Lovebird is being a town dick, or Lovebird is scum purposefully trying to be a town dick. Lynch either way.-
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Which is it? Anti-town to be on "vanity wagon", or consolidating "not town motivated"?In post 1394, Iconeum wrote:In post 1318, Lovebird wrote:
I guess. Voting lalendra doesn't feel good. People sure she's not just lynchbaity?In post 1315, the worst wrote:vote someone who is more likely to be scum?
Lovebird, what changed? Because:
Is just not town motivatedIn post 1332, Lovebird wrote:I guess I should just sheep biggest wagon or towniest players then.
Just lynch this already
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