Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)


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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:16 am

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In post 901, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I mean when I naturally quote things as I read, it makes sense to have a time difference as I'm reading, the posts do seem pre-planned.
I mean I honestly don't see how opening several tabs to reply to each one properly is so scummy. Last time I tried to multiquote it didn't work out as I wanted it to. Lack of knowledge of forum tools if you know of a better way do tell (for future reference).
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:24 am

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In post 950, Impossibear wrote:worst wagon ever. what analysis can even be done with no counterwagon? completely scum motivated. actually starting to think ouroboros might be scum the way this day went down.

really really.. just gross.

ETL
Also ETL basically said the same thing I did in different words.

This wagon is never going to help town regardless of flip.
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:25 am

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In post 960, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:this is bullshit. venti is probably flipping town. ETL is probably town. sadly so is RC here
i agree with all of this.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:25 am

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Minus the Ouroboros scum part, I think RC is just in a death tunnel and unaware of how awful the tunnel is.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:36 am

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Locktown

We're still town
Kaede town
Alchemist town: meta
Ankamius town: that's almost never a scum response here imo
Manwithnoname goes up to town: their play doesn't make sense if they're not specifically SvS with ventriloquist
davesaz town- no longer negotiable

I am almost certain that there is 0 scum in this list

Wilky town: felt like a town reaction in the long run
Tchill feel like scum wouldn't have claimed there but again negotiable
Dunn: trusting my initial good gut feelings

Impossibear / Jungle: Feel like there's a scum in the pair but I can't be sure.

Hebichan: Still meh + jumped off of a town flip.
Nero cain: was townreading based on stuff that doesn't point to town in the same way if Nero and Maria are both scum. In fact I am tempted to put this lower but I don't want to actually review and see how I feel

Generally bad

verylazy: no reason to townread, generally bad ISO.

Scum:

MariaR: explicitly scumreading, have seen a tell that heavily leans scum, if I die I can't give it 100% but this has very good scum equity and is likely to be endgame scum if we do end up dead tonight
Wraith: The post that they made about not making preflip associatives is almost certainly a scumclaim in a Ventrilo!town universe
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:37 am

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Ramcius should be in lower town somewhere btw
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:38 am

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yeah i reviewed NC is only towny with a presumption of Maria town that I'm not willing to presume right now
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:40 am

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Assuming this is a townflip and I dropped the ball: that's what their twilight reaction points to at any rate.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:40 am

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OBviously if it flips scum go off the original list.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:41 am

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Other specific interactions that I want to call out:

Maria and Nero both gain a fuckton of scum equity if the other of the pair flips scum.
Nero scum almost always means Dunn town
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:42 am

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Anony will control the vote and lead this hydra if we're alive tomorrow (I still expect to not be) glgl
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:42 am

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Stand by saying not to investigate Bear, even if that means just presuming them as town by default: they're the single slot that has any specific godfather equity in this game.
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:44 am

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@Bear if we're both still alive I'll try my best to work with y'all tomorrow.

Believe me I was a lot less certain of this flip than I outwardly stated but I felt this flip was so, so important for me in terms of dividing which universe it was
I think that this being a townflip gives you at the very least some town equity, it locktowns MWNN and Davesaz fmpov, and it tells me a lot about Maria's interactions
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:45 am

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bear is town.
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:47 am

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Anyway I strongly advise powerlynching Wraith, I should have considered it today, if I had done a better job being right on my tertiary reads and their interactions
like I knew scum RMOJ would never try to fight me and I still went off a line of reasoning involving them being scum defending which was really bad.

Anyway glgl my townreads are better than my scumreads etc etc
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:51 am

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I htink maria is in wrong category ftr

like

I want to put her in normal scum but she's slightly below that

I'm gonna reshape my readslist
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:52 am

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this page really really is making me perk my brow
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:53 am

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{RC, Kaede}
{Alchemist, Ankamius, MWNN, Davesaz}
{Wilky, NC (mariatown)}
{Ramcius}
{Tchill, Dunnstral}
-null line- Impossibear/jungle outside of typical reads
{Verylazy, NC (mariascum)}
{MariaR, Hebichan}
{}
{Wraith}
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:54 am

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In post 991, MariaR wrote:this page really really is making me perk my brow
tbh I wanted to just declare you lockscum and then read you based off of whether I got killed or not :D
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:55 am

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Hrm.
You mind getting copped RC?
Pedit: I don't think you'd sr me here unless you were scum atm but we'll see
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:55 am

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Like I feel this is one of my most obv town games besides midnight dream
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:56 am

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All you're lynching who I want tomorrow remember?
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:57 am

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Hrm.
You mind getting copped RC?
Pedit: I don't think you'd sr me here unless you were scum atm but we'll see
yes I absolutely mind I have a hydra partner to make me a free read and scum still have so much reason to want to kill me
burning investigations on me in an overlapping nightkill is a massive hit to town's win equity.
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 8:58 am

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I mean I could just be knee jerk reacting
I never called you lockscum, I don't have a clear read on you.

But what I do have says >rand scum.

I would prefer to not say anything about you because I prefer to hold off on reads that I can have 100% until I have them 100% but we're still the nightkill that makes the most sense and I can't leave that unsaid.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Fri May 11, 2018 9:00 am

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twlight action gooo
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