Micro 800-A: Double Day Unlimited [Endgame]

[singersigner]

Ranmaru has a lot more time and energy than I do so he just posted a metric fuck ton of stuff I'm supposed to follow up on before I did, lol.

[singersigner]

Ranmaru has a lot more time and energy than I do so he just posted a metric fuck ton of stuff I'm supposed to follow up on before I did, lol.

EBWOP: Die*

[northsidegal]

Day One, Lynch One

Votecount 1.10

Cogito Ergo Sum (1):

Not_Mafia

Katyusha (3):

RedFlavor, Pine, Plotinus

singersinger (4):

Cogito Ergo Sum, Katyusha, Not_Mafia, Ausuka

Pine (2):

Not_Mafia, Katyusha

Ausuka (1):

Not_Mafia

RedFlavor (3):

Not_Mafia, Pine, singersinger

Not_Mafia (1):

Pine

Dunnstral (1):

singersinger

Not Voting (1):

Dunnstral

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-05-20 01:00:59)

Mod Notes:

Prodding RedFlavor.

[RedFlavor]

Ok

I read singer iso
nothing struck me scummy

[RedFlavor]

Singer, what changed between #173 and #194 that made you decide to vote for Katyusha?

Basically all of her posts in between, lol. Since I started questioning her and not outright townreading her when she declared an early townread on me, it feels like she's using her hydra-buddy to justify a quick change of pace and a scum read on me.

@Cogito, did this post change anything for you about singer?

[RedFlavor]

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

btw

[Pine]

Yeah I just don't see why you think that makes me scum...

Which is frustrating because Ranmaru and I both think you're town.

unvote: Katy
vote: Dunnstral

These both strike me as SUPER agenda-driven. I've been having a hard time reading singer all game, but this is setting off alarm bells.

Intent to hammer.

Singer, please give a final readslists and comments.

[singersigner]

What makes you think it's going to be final with a whole second half of the day...

Also, what the fuck is agenda driven about voting...

[RedFlavor]

I also see nothing agenda driven about it

Also does second lynch also counts in this deadline?

[singersigner]

Also, this game is too fucking slow with essentially three people being V/LA. Are you saying you think me voting for Dunn and saying CES is town is seriously scummier than like half the playerlist not commentiing or posting more than once/day?

This game sucks.

[RedFlavor]

Also, this game is too fucking slow with essentially three people being V/LA. Are you saying you think me voting for Dunn and saying CES is town is seriously scummier than like half the playerlist not commentiing or posting more than once/day?

This game sucks.

Yesss

Who do you think is scum?

[singersigner]

Also, this game is too fucking slow with essentially three people being V/LA. Are you saying you think me voting for Dunn and saying CES is town is seriously scummier than like half the playerlist not commentiing or posting more than once/day?

This game sucks.

(Not to mention all three are either on or trying to be on my wagon )

Who do you think is scum?

I'm voting for my two biggest scum reads, is that not clear?

As far as details, I need to get to a point where I can paraphrase Ranmaru's notes since he's basically playing the long game for me, lol.

[Ausuka]

I'm not sure what I should be saying? I've been wanting to talk to unabombah, but he doesn't seem to want to do that. If what has been said about draft meta and regular meta is correct, Dunnstral, NM and Plot are all town. I'm townreading Katy and CES. From my point of view, the current lynch is good and there's no reason to try and change what's happening.

I think the CES vote makes RF more likely to be town; the CES vote is extremely unopportunistic and not a direction I think scum!RF takes at this point. I don't really have anything else to comment on.

[singersigner]

You should probably comment on the fact that draft meta doesn't apply to those who didn't choose their alignments. Otherwise I strongly believe CES wouldn't be voting me right now.

[Pine]

What makes you think it's going to be final with a whole second half of the day...

Also, what the fuck is agenda driven about voting...

Calling one of the people voting you Town, unvoting another person voting you, and voteparking on a vanity wagon by yourself.

Yeah. That passes the "agenda-driven" test.

Last chance to post a full readslist etc.

[Ausuka]

You should probably comment on the fact that draft meta doesn't apply to those who didn't choose their alignments. Otherwise I strongly believe CES wouldn't be voting me right now.

The draft meta applied to Plotinus specifically, who definitely did choose his alignment if his team got a scumslot (unless his team got 2 scumslots which is unlikely.) The regular meta bit was applied to Dunnstral and Not_Mafia; I am fully aware that we can't use draft meta on them, but people have been using regular meta on them, and I have decided to trust that they aren't wrong.

[Dunnstral]

Dunn is being a bit dodgy and

not at all playing the same way he was in White Flag.

Really bad example. And not sure it's true either, on top of that it doesn't mean anything.

[Dunnstral]

Did Ranmaru tell you that? It doesn't feel genuine coming from him. From you, it doesn't actually mean anything since you weren't in that game. I'm not confident in your wagon flipping scum though, I think you're just misguided here (how about playing the game yourself instead of relying on bad meta from ranmaru, for one.)

[singersigner]

Did Ranmaru tell you that? It doesn't feel genuine coming from him. From you, it doesn't actually mean anything since you weren't in that game. I'm not confident in your wagon flipping scum though, I think you're just misguided here (how about playing the game yourself instead of relying on bad meta from ranmaru, for one.)

What I'm reading is that you're basically trying to discredit the WF observation from every angle while distancing yourself from a wagon you know will flip town.

What makes you think it's going to be final with a whole second half of the day...

Also, what the fuck is agenda driven about voting...

Calling one of the people voting you Town, unvoting another person voting you, and voteparking on a vanity wagon by yourself.

Yeah. That passes the "agenda-driven" test.

Last chance to post a full readslist etc.

Lol@vote parking on a "vanity wagon" (care to comment on it btw?) when it's unlimited voting and I'm voting for more than one person.

I still don't understand what you're interpreting any of that to be an "agenda"...what exactly is my agenda?

Also, you can't exactly threaten a reads list from me (especially since you'll never get a true reads list from me, scum have to fight harder than that to decide their night kill/lynch targets). The day doesn't end and unless I'm misinterpreting the rules, I don't just disappear if someone tries to prematurely hammer me when only two other people commented since you declared intent. I said I'd post Ran's notes when I have an opportunity to paraphrase them; you don't get to blame me if you hammer before I do.

[singersigner]

@Kat...I'm specifically interested in your comparison of Dunn's play to WF. Where's the pro-town intent and conviction to push his reads?

[Dunnstral]

Did Ranmaru tell you that? It doesn't feel genuine coming from him. From you, it doesn't actually mean anything since you weren't in that game. I'm not confident in your wagon flipping scum though, I think you're just misguided here (how about playing the game yourself instead of relying on bad meta from ranmaru, for one.)

What I'm reading is that you're basically trying to discredit the WF observation from every angle while distancing yourself from a wagon you know will flip town.

Here's what you said:

Dunn is being a bit dodgy and not at all playing the same way he was in White Flag.

How was I playing in White Flag, and where did you get this viewpoint? I'm saying you two are lying or have made stuff up and I can bring up quotes from that game to prove it.

[singersigner]

Cool, on a computer so I can word vomit some paraphrasing stuff:

Re: Dunn...you're keeping your cards close to your chest. My dodging comment was based on your reactions to my questioning you. You have a different tone from White Flag (according to Ran, I stopped reading it after CES said he wasn't going to utilize us, lol). You said RedFlavor was coasting and were leaning town on me, but now that there's a wagon on me, you're interested in voting for me? Apparently you pushed T-Chill for lurking and posting in other games, but aren't doing that here for some reason.

Re: Pine...we really liked what he produced when he was under fire. Ran particularly noted this is similar to your Civ 5 Mafia play.

Re: Plot...your Kat reads make sense, particularly because I had the same initial concerns with her spiral on Pine. We like Ali's reads, but which you were more of a presence in this game.

Re: Ausuka...this is a bit biased because we're scumreading RedFlavor. Ran doesn't blame you for not liking my play but does note it's making people question it so we can see if there's town motivation behind determining why I'm playing this way or not. Not sure why this was in your note...something something, thinks Kat's wrong on Dunn and you're just following her?

Tossing in that 184 seemed genuine

[Dunnstral]

Apparently you pushed T-Chill for lurking and posting in other games, but aren't doing that here for some reason.

Who's lurking and posting in other games?

but now that there's a wagon on me, you're interested in voting for me?

My partner thinks you are scummier than I did

[northsidegal]

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