So my take on Marias ISO.
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=Rvs-random, I think.
Their third, and last post of D1.
Nothing worth analyzing so far, but I got a weird vibe from this whole hammer-situation now that I read it again.
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No attempt at questioning or commenting towards mastina. I think it's only towny and fair to try and provoke SOME SORT of interaction and discussion either towards the "obv.scum"-slot or around it.
If everyone would've gone the Maria-route at the start of day, we would have pretty much NOTHING at the start of D3. She seems oddly content with that scenario.
In post 144, MariaR wrote:that wasn't a joke mastina would've saw the pedit for my "L-1" post so that's scum ta ta if mastina is town she did the biggest fuck up ever
good thing she's not town
...as an explanation doesn't cover anything IMO.
In post 148, MariaR wrote:I wanted to put Ali at L-1 to see who would keep the vote on and
who would unvote please I wanted ali to react to my vote on her.
Cheeky is being dumb atm dumb town or scum remains to be seen as she acts dumb as both town and scum idc atm I wanna lynch scum
Here Ranmaru had questioned Maria on their L-1 vote. I don't think she was under a lot of pressure though, so her using the bolded wording (almost like pleading?) seemed off to me. This post was also the real start of my Maria+Cheeky-line of thought.
It doesn't come across as distancing yet, but it feels like "laying the foundation" for a buss later. (if it were to be necessary)
In post 160, MariaR wrote:Sigh I suppose you have a point that if she's town we're fucked so I'll think it over( You can call me Maria or Claire I have no pref w/e you feel comfortable with!)
...and this didn't even cross your mind??
Like, my very FIRST thought was that it had been an accident - alignments aside - and that just rushing head first into her lynch would likely dig us even deeper into a swamp.
In post 161, MariaR wrote:I forgot why I called cheeky dumb tbh I think it was pushing ram cause I tr him
This initially pinged me as scum too. Maria had refrained from calling Cheeky either alignment, but had used a way around it, calling her dumb. And now she doesn't even know why..?
Chamber asking Maria the same thing I wondered above..
In post 164, MariaR wrote:It ran through my mind of course and I still wanna vote mastina but I have 14 days to flesh out the risk is not worth the reward of going into lylo with nada.
If this had been your FIRST thought and initial reaction to a mastina-speedwagon, I would probably think you are townier too..!
Hold that thought, I'm being busy in the past.
...couldn't have said it better myself.
In post 215, MariaR wrote:in a neighborhood scum gets to pocket said neighbor you're appealing to 1 person instead of a crowd
I find scum neighbourizer a great role
I would actually agree with that sentiment. But. I feel like you said it here just because you want to maintain the paranoia and suspicions currently raging in that hood.
Just in case you still need to lynch either of them at some point to win.
So am I, but apparently I'm scum for not posting more often?
(I'm most comfortable with making walls like this, but unfortunately it means I need to be on a comp. for them to make any sense, and I need other players to actually read for them to matter.)
In post 232, MariaR wrote:Like I got pushed for that exact same thing many times.
Everytime I've been town for it
I'm pushing for you because of the posts you have actually made. Read above.
In post 239, MariaR wrote:Unba and chamber do you sr me and mastina as partners or are we just the most scummy to you? If it's the former a bit more info on that would be great
I'm not sure if I ever properly answered this, but here goes.
I do not think mastina is scum here, but lynching her would remove that paranoia/WIFOM from LyLo. That is the only reason I've contemplated lynching her D2. If she were to be lynched and did flip scum, I could still see you two as buddies, so her alignment doesn't "help" you either way. That is also why I want you lynched over her today.
This was apparently towards mastina after her
252? Not seeing the "vibes" myself..
In post 254, MariaR wrote:I think if I can figure out UnaBombaH alignment I can win this game
Is it just because this is about my slot, or does anyone else see the implications here?
Like, let's assume for funsies that she finally accepts that I'm town.
How does that solve the game?
She would know that my push for her doesn't have a scum-agenda, nor does my reluctance to lynch mastina. That's it. I think she would have to flip a hell of a lot of her alignment-reads to be able to lock the scumteam from there.
Which means that her perspective for this sentence is that I'm lock!scum, and she only needs to find a partner from my interactions.
I'm not sure if this is a "perspective-slip" in the sense that town doesn't think they can win the game with just one slots alignment comfortably sorted, unless they are scum and give clear implications to follow on who's scum with them.
Bash me for being stupid if I misunderstood something.
Including this one, hmm?
Posts #
286 - #
288 feels like scumtheater to me.
Something that Cheeky can "point out" as an attempt to "sort" Maria, and something she has a witty answer for..
On a personal level, or do you finally get that I'm town in this game??
In post 370, MariaR wrote:Una is trying to get out of calling both me/mastina scum so he can ml me and cheeky I see
Or I'm the only one who has a hunch on you two? I'm not good in this game, but even a blind chicken hits a worm from time to time..
In post 371, MariaR wrote:tempted to hammer mastina cause I trust Dunn's reads but I won't
Hope you are reading this wall, because here's a question to you then - do YOU think that me and mastina could be a team here?
In post 381, MariaR wrote:Mastina if you think scum me is that predictable I'm a bit offended
Valuable insight.
In post 384, MariaR wrote:if my top tr has a tr on cheeky.
Plus my partner has a tr on my top tr. I'll trust there judgement (it's strange cause I'm really good at reading scum cheeky)
Like, what is this post?
Do you scumread Cheeky or not? No? Because you said above that you think I want to MISlynch both you and Cheeky.
Yet here it feels again like you're softly making way for a scumread on Cheeky, but you don't scumread them because your partner and top TR think Cheeky is town?
Again, correct me if I'm wrong here.
In post 395, MariaR wrote:Correct reads list are easy as fuck to fake. I don't get the point you're trying to make
..but completely refusing to make clear distinctions between players is scummy too. We can't hold you accountable for anything if you don't take a solid stance on anyone.
In post 427, MariaR wrote:I'm playing this game much more dif then I would any other town game so fair enough
I trust you on this one..funny how that different play makes me think you are scum, but...
In post 447, MariaR wrote:chamber sring me for thinking my town game is dif (rightfully so) felt towny tbh
..but me thinking the same way is scummy.
I feel like you might have decided that you want me lynched - no need for actual reasons!
In post 453, MariaR wrote:Only reason I'm not hammering mastina is cause ram asked me not too
even though I want too so people don't get stupid and wagon me but meh
I think one of the things that make you a formidable scum/3rdparty -player is because you can somehow say things like the bolded above. It's such a "scummy" thing to say, that it feels like it can't come from town. But you do have that banner above your avatar..
In post 457, MariaR wrote:I think una's chance of being scum is higher than mastina but then I remembered I don't really have any sr's besides mastina and una so it doesn't really matter.
Since it seems like you'll probably get mastina lynched today, humor me for a bit.
I assume I'm still scum tomorrow, so you'll need to pin a buddy to me. Who is it after mastina flips town today?
In post 459, MariaR wrote:errant feels towny but the fact he hasn't taken a solid stance sr wise is weird.
I can see him being scum if 1 of una/mastina is scum
but I can also see cheeky being scum with mastina (but not una so an una lynch would be great)
Oh, I guess this is where it's at.
Funny though - you get mastina lynched today, and you have still 0 reason to NOT chase me tomorrow..
So maybe push for my lynch today instead, and be a good townie?
HINT: neither.