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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 11:25 am

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@Wis that's not entirely true
In post 76, dramonic wrote:Then you need to sharpen your senses (branches?) Cuz we already have two visible scum in group 1 and 2.
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I havent really checked whos in my group besides muffin but he doesnt ping me.
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In post 109, Wisdom wrote:2 has Pine in addition to me
2 has one more person to account for scum losing members
Certain if not most people in this playerlist probably don't have much experience with zmuffin

2 is better than 3
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muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine

who's accounting for what?
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 11:45 am

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you misunderstood the second one
real was responding to me re: who is better scum
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 11:51 am

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VOTE COUNT 1.3
1
2
3
DeasVailBuJaberdramonic
Eddie CaneKokichi OmaREALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
havingfitzPineSirCakez
northsidegalrikuzMuffinMan
Wisdom


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(3): SirCakez, dramonic, zMuffinMan
Group 2
(4): riku, BuJaber, Wisdom, Kokichi Oma
Group 3
(3): Eddie Cane, Pine, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
Not voting: 3 (DeasVail, havingfitz, northsidegal)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-20 23:00:00).
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 11:59 am

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In post 149, Wisdom wrote:Nobody outside group 2 is scumreading anyone in group 2
Im not opposed to a group2 lynch either, there's scum there, but if I can play with you and Pine longer I don't see why I should off you this early.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 12:49 pm

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Draaaaaam <3 :(
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 1:17 pm

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In post 149, Wisdom wrote:Nobody outside group 2 is scumreading anyone in group 2
Then what do you think about that? Not just this blanket statement
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 1:28 pm

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That there are scum in group 2 like ive said already
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 151, Wisdom wrote:you misunderstood the second one
real was responding to me re: who is better scum
mb
I see what you're getting at regardless, but I don't agree just yet.


Speaking of DV I am wondering where they are now that it's been about a day.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:09 pm

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In post 157, SirCakez wrote:
In post 151, Wisdom wrote:you misunderstood the second one
real was responding to me re: who is better scum
mb
I see what you're getting at regardless, but I don't agree just yet.


Speaking of DV I am wondering where they are now that it's been about a day.
Probably off trying to come up with another two-word scumslip
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:12 pm

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it will be hard for him to top the first one
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:17 pm

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The fact that only people in group 2 are voting group 2 is now worrying me. Wisdom, how does it suggest scum in our midst?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:22 pm

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Because it's a tempting target for scum to move on and they aren't.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:25 pm

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That makes sense, but what if thet just dont want to be suspected for going for the ez target?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 3:50 pm

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So nobody in group 1 is voting for group 1?

@Cake - yes I think so. I think muffin and RMOJ were trying to wind people up. I'm not saying it's necessarily scummy but it's anti-town. RMOJ also used a whole lot of words to basically say "scum must be in group 3 because they put me in group 3". (If I misunderstood tell me but I think that's a concise summary of all of his theories). This is more or less what anybody who voted for their own group has said, so why did RMOJ need to do it in a 'showy' way?
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:01 pm

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In post 160, riku wrote:The fact that only people in group 2 are voting group 2 is now worrying me. Wisdom, how does it suggest scum in our midst?
same question. it seems like 1 vs 3. while 2 is voting each other.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:15 pm

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In post 156, Wisdom wrote:That there are scum in group 2 like ive said already

wisdom is supporting for the lynch of his own group

he is begging us to let him DIE WITH HONOR



WISDOM, YOU ARE A MAN! I WILL HELP YOU GRANT YOUR REQUEST!


as the kind and gentle MAN i am

VOTE: group 2
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:18 pm

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In post 163, BuJaber wrote:So nobody in group 1 is voting for group 1?

@Cake - yes I think so. I think muffin and RMOJ were trying to wind people up. I'm not saying it's necessarily scummy but it's anti-town. RMOJ also used a whole lot of words to basically say "scum must be in group 3 because they put me in group 3". (If I misunderstood tell me but I think that's a concise summary of all of his theories). This is more or less what anybody who voted for their own group has said, so why did RMOJ need to do it in a 'showy' way?

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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:27 pm

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Bah.. it's 1/1/1 split isn't it... group 1 votes for group 3 group 2 votes for group 2 group 3 votes for group 1 because scum don't have to influence town all groups are pretty much the same to them they want to leave the choice to town. I also suspect that the scum in group 1/group 3 are from the late posters.

RMOJ/fitz/pine ? Seems the most likely team if 1/1/1 split

Maybe dramonic/koki/nsg
Because I don't like how dramonic called koki "japanese name person".

Pine and nsg because both sort of implied they'd be ballsy with the split if scum. I find it hard to believe 2 townies would say the same thing.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:32 pm

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In post 167, BuJaber wrote:Pine and nsg because both sort of implied they'd be ballsy with the split if scum. I find it hard to believe 2 townies would say the same thing
*regarding how they would play as scum.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 6:37 pm

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if you think i'm scum then vote me. be a MAN not a
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 8:13 pm

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Unfortunately this is partition mafia so I wouldn't be voting for
you
I'd be voting for your entire group. And I'm still unsure if that's the best group to lynch because there's still plenty of good resons to vote for my own group.

Also I've convinced myself that group 1 must contain 1 scum. So there's 1/3 chance your group has 0 scum.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 8:38 pm

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^This feels wolfy
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 9:18 pm

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^ so does this
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 9:59 pm

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In post 149, Wisdom wrote:Nobody outside group 2 is scumreading anyone in group 2
yeah, about that...

i've been thinking a bit about how everyone in group 2 minus pine needs to go on suicide watch and while mulling it over a bit (since i've got nothing better to do while i
stare at a screen and pretend to do work all day
wait for queries to run and things to compile), i decided it's not all that likely there's 2 scum in that group

briefly gonna run through the ideas i was thinking over:

i don't really know the history of the players in your group, but from what i've read of the players so far, apart from
maybe
you, i don't see them as all that capable of thinking they can pull off a self-vote reverse psychology sort of move - as in, based on how capable they seem, i have a hard time seeing any combination of riku+buj, riku+kok or buj+kok thinking it's a good idea to try and out-WIFOM town (though if they
were
doing it, i think they'd have given some indication they're willing to move elsewhere, but so far they're all staying steadfast on the "WE MUST DIE!" course (and neither buj nor riku seem to have even flinched at a REAL MAN joining their wagon)) - maybe i'm severely underestimating their capabilities, but eh, from what i've read so far, they don't seem like the types of players who would come up with that and think it's a winning strategy (or at least if they did, i'd expect to see it played a bit differently)

i don't really think you're doing it either (though i don't feel strongly enough about this to say it with certainty). i think if you were doing it, you'd probably be less likely to draw attention to the fact that no one seems to want to push your group (status quo of no one discussing it i think would be better for you in the long run since it's more likely to stop being a thing that way). i also think in order for there to be 2+ scum in that group of 5, you'd need to be the ring leader essentially (if you have some reason for thinking otherwise, i'm all ears... or eyes, i guess)

i think the more likely scenario than 2+ scum in your group is 1 (or possibly 0 but i think more likely 1)

if there's 1, they probably set this group up predicting that whatever particular chemistry you guys have would make it more likely their group was lynched (seems to be working for the people in your group, at least!) and are doing so at the cost of a sacrifice (i think you're by far the least likely to be doing it in this case)

kind of the same logic applies if there's 0 in the group (though in this case, probably the reason there's so little discussion about it is scum are waiting for your group to implode on itself without needing to do much themselves)

here's a question i'm interested in: would pine have been aware of the dynamics of your group?

i'm undecided about what to make of pine and the fact he seems to be largely ignoring the silent pleas for help that are coming from your group of clearly unhealthy people - it reads a bit like someone who doesn't want to rock the boat and is fine with how things are playing out, which is why i want to know how likely it is he'd have known this is how things would play out. the fact that pine is playing like he is, though, is why i'm not really including him in all the 2-scum speculation

the tl;dr of all this is that i think it's more likely scum are fine with what group 2 is doing because they're hoping it goes through without them having much of a hand in it, not because there's 2 scum in it. i'm currently thinking it's most likely a 1-1-1 split with an outside chance of a 2-1-0 split

all that said, independent of the whole voting stuff, i have a mild town read on buj-dude and a weaker town read on kok-guy and riku

the group i feel worst about is group 1

NSG is probably town in that group, but i don't have any sort of town read on the rest of them. i'm pretty sure DV hates scum (maybe this has changed or i'm remembering something incorrectly) so it wouldn't surprise me if his inactivity is a result of that, i haven't liked what little hf has posted and eddie hasn't done anything that makes me feel one way or another about him but he has an evil-sounding name
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2018 10:00 pm

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In post 173, zMuffinMan wrote:
briefly
gonna run through the ideas i was thinking over
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