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[chamber]

You just made a completely unqualified statement that its me + MariaR. In the PT you didn't seem nearly that certain. I'd have to go back and look, but I think you had EP in the same set as me if nothing else?

[Ranmaru]

Chamber, why were you tempted into hammering Mastina, especially after I said I was going to post my reads? I thought it over and felt EP + Maria is a bit too obvious.

[chamber]

If you are town I think you've been an anti-town presence. But that was also said as a half joke. I hammered when I realized, in the case where you are town, it would be not only impossible for one of you or me to live (thus a town person being able to still bring it to the group at large) but also there would be someone else in the neighbourhood to either corroborate or go into a 1v1 which seemed fine.

I really didn't like basically anything mastina did after hammering alisea. Way too focused on it. Didn't really do nearly any actual playing of the game. Seemed to disappear when they weren't a focus.

[MariaR]

mass claim time?

[Ranmaru]

I do think we mass claim today, it's lylo. Maria, you go first. Then you popcorn.

[MariaR]

why not you~

[MariaR]

I'll go after you how about that

[Ranmaru]

No. You go.

[MariaR]

nope

[chamber]

My impression is that the mafia probably don't have daytalk, so we can probably have people claim in the neighbourhood first, and then have the non neighbourhood people claim in public.

[Ranmaru]

No, we all claim here.

[MariaR]

I'm prob voting EP 100% of the time here

Chamber/ram isn't scum together and I sr ep much harder then una

[chamber]

No, we all claim here.

Why?

[MariaR]

prob ram cause his flip today on me is scummy as fuck

[Ranmaru]

Reads I was going to post yesterday:

Cheeky is genuine with her scum hunting and is present. #304 and #307 are her best posts so far. Not that she's correct, but it helps me read her alignment. (Although I thought she was correct at the time, it makes sense with a town mindset) #460 and #506 are also good posts. I agree with her Una mindset, only because I don't think Una is scum anymore, his recent post seemed townie. Cheeky is my top town read.

Una's original posts seemed shaky. He came off as too scummy to be scum, in that he was drawing attention to himself when he need not say such things as mafia. His wall post on Maria seemed alright, and I feel his reaction to Maria's response was townie. I also do think him stating he was waiting to use a computer so that he would not phone post as much due to quality standards is fair because I've seen other less experienced players state the same.

Mastina I'm betting is town here. More so through Process of Elimination. I think it's likely that her hammer may have been a mistake, and I'm not liking how easy her lynch is right now.

Chamber I keep flip flopping on. I felt a lot of his actions were scum motivated, yet I do note that he has been present. His interaction between him and Maria also makes me reconsider my scum read on him. His pushes seem bad, yet he is still scumhunting in spite of my dislike of him.

Errant hasn't really been paying enough attention to actually determine alignment. I do believe he's been playing in a way to remain an enigma on purpose. #386 feels like a poke at me for the purpose of undermining my slot's credibility, rather then determining my alignment, as seen here: #437 and #477 He seems to see me as a big presence, yet also seems to forget that I have re-evaluated on more than one person, and more than once. This goes back to his #296 where he uses Chamber's argument that I was pushing him in bad faith, so that [Errant] can try to topple my credibility, instead of determine my alignment, which he doesn't really have a good hold of. Finally, his vote on Mastina seemed to be quick, lazy, and comes without any thought. #504 He also uses the justification that 'he's exhausted with the game'. That is not a good reason to vote Mastina. There's currently wagons on Mastina and Maria, he town reads Mastina but doesn't feel good about myself or Maria, yet he joins Mastina over Maria. He said he had Mastina as town, but as the day progressed, his read has become vague, so he could inch his way onto her wagon.

Maria, Maria, my dear Maria. As I said earlier, Chamber's interaction with Maria, made me reconsider my read on her. Chamber's #485 made me look at Maria again. I think Chamber's #419 is a good point. I also looked to see if she mentioned anything about League besides when she was pushed, as I have argued, and I did not see it anywhere else, which made me doubt my read on her. Also, her league game didn't go for very long, which was also odd. (Unless she's playing a mode that is shorter then 30 minutes) Her #316 is weird because I strongly town read Cheeky, but it feels like she's been trying to put Cheeky to null to try to influence my control of the game. #424 I don't get Maria's insistence that Chamber is town here, it feels like she's sticking to Una/Mastina when I don't think that is the best play or the most accurate path. I may be wrong on Chamber but I'm trying to make sure we have the most accurate read on scum, Maria isn't. This happened ever since I claimed the neighborhood. =https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic. ... 162763]#72 Finally, her 72 came after Errant's vote on Ali, and not before. That was very odd, if she sees the wagon building on Ali, naturally she would join when she gets there. It seemed a bit un-organic. #477 is the most suspicious to me because she's admitting that her play is different here, and townreads Chamber for it in hopes that he would think she's not scum for it. I think Maria scum read me for that in The Thing Mafia, where I townread her.

[chamber]

Please don't mod kill him over that.

[MariaR]

Claim in the hood.

[Ranmaru]

No. Chamber, how do you feel about Maria supporting the hood claim?

[MariaR]

don't*

[MariaR]

Claiming in the hood is moronic because if there's 3 people in it 1 has to be scum so it's giving more info to scum then it is town

[Ranmaru]

Lol.

[chamber]

What

[chamber]

Don't you want ram to claim first anyway? So him claiming in the PT first is to a strictly smaller set and still locks in his claim.

[Ranmaru]

Claim

in the hood.

don't*

[MariaR]

I thought I said don't before "claim" but I didn't