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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:43 am

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Quote fail

In post 1217, BuJaber wrote:You can't play mafia and not make any assumptions at all. Scum will have a field day with us if we are only doing the "trust no one" approach.
That's irrelevant to the point
In a normal mafia game if 2 people's posts contradict each other you'd never opt for ignoring both of them because you can't guarantee which is truthful. You would analyze each and lynch the one you feel is less believable.
This is neither a normal game nor an accurate portrayal of the situation.
Risking 4 town to lynch 1 scum just because we are too scared to trust our reads is bad play. Also there is info gained. Even with the worst case scenario that wisdom is the only scum in group 2 and we swap him out with a townie (which btw is a scenario that doesn't fit with everything that happened) we would know for a fact that wisdom is scum and that there were 2 scum outsude of group 2.
The only info we get is "we fucked up". We'd have lynched 0 scum and lost 4/5 town.
Yeah, that's totally better than 4 town 1 scum minimum.

We coulda also have no swap, lynch group 2, net 1 scum minimum and know there were 2 scum outside of group 2. Except we'd be at worst 6-2 instead of 5-3
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:44 am

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In post 1224, zMuffinMan wrote:it occurs to me there's probably 4 group-manipulating roles in this game

swapper, self-swapper, mover, self-mover

that would be nice symmetry; kudos to implosion for thinking that up, if that's the case
do you expect them to be all town?
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:45 am

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probably not

but it's also the kind of thing i would consider if i were designing the roles though, purely to counter-act that speculation
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:49 am

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koki did your role specify if there was one scum within the group or just some unknown amount of scum?
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:49 am

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Whenever eddie gets back, just ask him if he can move someone over to group 3
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:50 am

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Does specify the amount. Only detected
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:51 am

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?
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:52 am

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he meant doesnt
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:54 am

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oh duh
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:54 am

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Doesnt * sorry
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:55 am

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so then it's also important to keep in mind that people from 2 aren't necessarily conftown even if we get riku/pine scumflips
inb4 someone calls this shadethrowing
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 9:55 am

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no, i already mentioned this
theyre not likely scum together but its not impossible
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:53 pm

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Waiting for eddie
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:54 pm

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restaurants pretty dead rn so I'll beetle juice post

hey not claiming anything but its beckoner not mover muffin
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:55 pm

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What?
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 12:59 pm

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Commend to Wisdom and Pine for being REAL MEN


dramonic is a pussy and should be treated accordingly
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:01 pm

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In post 1225, dramonic wrote:Quote fail

In post 1217, BuJaber wrote:You can't play mafia and not make any assumptions at all. Scum will have a field day with us if we are only doing the "trust no one" approach.
That's irrelevant to the point
In a normal mafia game if 2 people's posts contradict each other you'd never opt for ignoring both of them because you can't guarantee which is truthful. You would analyze each and lynch the one you feel is less believable.
This is neither a normal game nor an accurate portrayal of the situation.
Risking 4 town to lynch 1 scum just because we are too scared to trust our reads is bad play. Also there is info gained. Even with the worst case scenario that wisdom is the only scum in group 2 and we swap him out with a townie (which btw is a scenario that doesn't fit with everything that happened) we would know for a fact that wisdom is scum and that there were 2 scum outsude of group 2.
The only info we get is "we fucked up". We'd have lynched 0 scum and lost 4/5 town.
Yeah, that's totally better than 4 town 1 scum minimum.

We coulda also have no swap, lynch group 2, net 1 scum minimum and know there were 2 scum outside of group 2. Except we'd be at worst 6-2 instead of 5-3
Just because YOU fuck up ever so often because your reads are TRASH doesn’t mean WE fuck up thanks

Dram’s fearmongering of “squawk what if we lynch 0 scum squawk” is really stupid considering that EVRRYONE ON BOARD WITH THE MAN PLAN expects this to hit 2+ scum
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:06 pm

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VOTE: group 3
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 1240, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:dramonic is a pussy and should be treated accordingly
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:07 pm

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In post 1195, Wisdom wrote:because im trying to understand wtf hes doing
i think hes town but its nonsense
Pine is BEING A REAL MAN READY TO DIE WITH HONOR

looks town to me
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:11 pm

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This antic of "manliness" is both offensive and promoting disgusting stereotypes.
This is a mafia game, not an RP session.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:12 pm

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In post 1245, dramonic wrote:This antic of "manliness" is both offensive and promoting disgusting stereotypes.
This is a mafia game, not an RP session.
well im making it an RP MAFIA SESSION

suck on that
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:13 pm

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ill consider what you say only if you flip town
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:14 pm

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@Implosion: You wouldn't allow sexism or homophobia in a game and this is just a different flavor of the same type of bullshit. Do something about RMOJ
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 1:24 pm

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also Pine being ready to die does not mean jack when he is not in the lynch target group
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