I'm still feeling the effects of White Flag.In post 1587, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:ETL wants them to get to L-1 until a votecount so that they can fullfill part of their quest that can confirm them as town, they want Ram coz Ram is scummy and if scum quickhammers to prevent the check, they're helping them lynching someone scummy anyway.In post 1586, Ouroboros wrote:Can someone sum up the case for me?
I don't believe the role has any value because I believe that the 'cop scan' is on a godfather at best. I am also very skeptical of the existence of the cop scan in general.You are deliberately getting, in the way of a cop scan. That's not even borderline anti town, that's flat out scum. And even then I still believe that you're probably just mad town and im voting you coz I dont want someone that's purposefully playing anti town.
Even despite the shitshow that was that White Flag game?
In post 840, Ankamius wrote:I've been very cold towards your demands because of not only my initial read on you, but parts of your engagement on me reads manipulative.In post 695, Alchemist21 wrote:See this is the kind of post I've been wanting. It also looks like you only refused my demands for content because you're scumreading me since you're willing to give them to Impossibear in your Town reads. Anyway, more like these please.
VOTE: Ventriloquist
This post in particular is very difficult to quantify in any sense, regardless of context from your other posts or not. It factors into my other question from you, but why did you completely drop this after spending so much of your time and effort trying to brute force info out of me?
In post 838, Ankamius wrote:Serious question: Why me specifically?In post 688, Alchemist21 wrote:For me, I've seen scum trying to directly engage with the person scumreading them and try to discredit the validity of the read or try to reason their way out of it. My memory might be a bit hazy example that came to my mind reading Vent's posts was SerraPaladin's posts in the 2016 Team Trap Mafia where he said the player who was scumreading them was doing it for reasons other than the content of their posts. I know Vent's not making that same exact argument but the nature of their defense feels like it comes from that same kind of mindset.In post 512, Impossibear wrote:Ok, maybe. I could see this line of reasoning. I personally didn't get that when I read his ISO. I'll re-review I guess. I'm trying to figure out why people are so gung ho about this wagon. Like, is it something you'd need to look really deeply to find? Because.. nothing stood out to me the way it apparently is for you and Ouro.
Wrt to my Ank vote, I've seen more content from them as both alignments tbh. It's been a while since I've played with them iirc, but how they're approaching this game doesn't sit right with me and the lack of any explanations makes it harder to actually solidify the read. I'll admit it's a read subject to change but if I have to strongarm some content from them I will.
Hmm...In post 1599, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Either you, me, ETL or tchill were the scum NK. OR ETL scum shot MWNNIn post 1594, Ouroboros wrote:Could that be a reason why neither of the hydras were NK'd? Ignoring PRs for a second, I can somewhat see this being a strategy, especially if neither hydra was on them. Mind you, the latter part of this half assed WIFOM theory is the key.In post 1569, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:yeah projectmatt is town.
scum would be too happy letting all this infighting continue.
Ghost
We already discussed this privately: the point is to masquerade as a vig kill.In post 1609, Ouroboros wrote:Hmm...
I'm turning up a blank on possible scum motive for Bear to shot such a scrutinized player (not fact checked). The last time I played scum, our team coordinated the night kill to purposefully avoid 3 players who were primed to go at each other's throats, in order to help town push a mislynch.
Ghost
Well....
That's because it's a really bizarre gambit to do when you've just lost one scum on day one, the type that has a high risk of backfiring unless they're really damn sure that RC is not going to be pushing another scum today.In post 1609, Ouroboros wrote:Hmm...In post 1599, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Either you, me, ETL or tchill were the scum NK. OR ETL scum shot MWNNIn post 1594, Ouroboros wrote:Could that be a reason why neither of the hydras were NK'd? Ignoring PRs for a second, I can somewhat see this being a strategy, especially if neither hydra was on them. Mind you, the latter part of this half assed WIFOM theory is the key.In post 1569, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:yeah projectmatt is town.
scum would be too happy letting all this infighting continue.
Ghost
I'm turning up a blank on possible scum motive for Bear to shot such a scrutinized player (not fact checked). The last time I played scum, our team coordinated the night kill to purposefully avoid 3 players who were primed to go at each other's throats, in order to help town push a mislynch.
Ghost
Because, and I'm pretty sure I've explained this, I wouldn't put it past someone to lolhammer Wilky with the logic of "RC said he was scum so I just took the opportunity."In post 1607, Ouroboros wrote:Like there's a super easy resolution to this which is wagoning Wilky for the quest. Why is that answer being refused? What's the pro-town motivation in that?
None.
Could we take a break and watch heart warming and bittersweet YouTube videos of people rescuing animals as a mini break time?In post 1611, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:At least half of that hydra has a brain.
Uh.... I think we're not presently voting someone?In post 1603, Impossibear wrote:Ghost, you down with keeping your vote on the wagon so RC can't quickhammer?
I dropped it because when you responded to Impossibear and not me, in line with your Town and scumreads on our respective slots, it sent a strong sign to me that you're Town and didn't need more content from you because I had the read.In post 1608, Ankamius wrote:@alc:
In post 840, Ankamius wrote:I've been very cold towards your demands because of not only my initial read on you, but parts of your engagement on me reads manipulative.In post 695, Alchemist21 wrote:See this is the kind of post I've been wanting. It also looks like you only refused my demands for content because you're scumreading me since you're willing to give them to Impossibear in your Town reads. Anyway, more like these please.
VOTE: Ventriloquist
This post in particular is very difficult to quantify in any sense, regardless of context from your other posts or not. It factors into my other question from you, but why did you completely drop this after spending so much of your time and effort trying to brute force info out of me?In post 838, Ankamius wrote:Serious question: Why me specifically?In post 688, Alchemist21 wrote:For me, I've seen scum trying to directly engage with the person scumreading them and try to discredit the validity of the read or try to reason their way out of it. My memory might be a bit hazy example that came to my mind reading Vent's posts was SerraPaladin's posts in the 2016 Team Trap Mafia where he said the player who was scumreading them was doing it for reasons other than the content of their posts. I know Vent's not making that same exact argument but the nature of their defense feels like it comes from that same kind of mindset.In post 512, Impossibear wrote:Ok, maybe. I could see this line of reasoning. I personally didn't get that when I read his ISO. I'll re-review I guess. I'm trying to figure out why people are so gung ho about this wagon. Like, is it something you'd need to look really deeply to find? Because.. nothing stood out to me the way it apparently is for you and Ouro.
Wrt to my Ank vote, I've seen more content from them as both alignments tbh. It's been a while since I've played with them iirc, but how they're approaching this game doesn't sit right with me and the lack of any explanations makes it harder to actually solidify the read. I'll admit it's a read subject to change but if I have to strongarm some content from them I will.
Bear meant on ram.In post 1618, Ouroboros wrote:Uh.... I think we're not presently voting someone?In post 1603, Impossibear wrote:Ghost, you down with keeping your vote on the wagon so RC can't quickhammer?
Ghost
Yeah, I'm saying are you okay with being one of the 8 names for the wagon composition so that RC can't quickhammer. And voting Ramcius again if he unvotes.In post 1618, Ouroboros wrote:Uh.... I think we're not presently voting someone?In post 1603, Impossibear wrote:Ghost, you down with keeping your vote on the wagon so RC can't quickhammer?
Ghost
