Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[Lalendra]

If everyone already knows you're cop, what pro-town reason could you have to not out your results

[Mathdino]

if his target was the commuter, he doesn't want to give them a chance to reactively claim commuter

as much as i want to see what he thought would be the best copcheck, he's making the right call

[Mathdino]

Night 3 Vigilante OR Vengeful
1-Shot Commuter OR 1-Shot Watcher
Doctor OR Roleblocker
Neighborizer OR Fruit Vendor

yeah we only have 4 roles left unclaimed

your next post should be whether or not you are a PR

i think the right call is to next massclaim all the VT role choices, and THEN reveal the PRs

[Lalendra]

if his target was the commuter, he doesn't want to give them a chance to reactively claim commuter

as much as i want to see what he thought would be the best copcheck, he's making the right call

Ok that's fair, I trust you

[Mathdino]

keep in mind that iconeum is essentially claiming a guilty on the doc/roleblocker slot
and in turn any doctors can claim guilties on iconeum

so if we can nab even more confscum today then the massclaim is totally worth it

[yessiree]

VC 2.3

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

The Janitor (4) -

Mathdino, Ausuka, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis, Lalendra

Lalendra (3) -

Eddie Cane, The Janitor, Taly

Not voting

- davesaz, Iconeum, mutantdevle, Ircher

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-05-29 09:00:00)

[The Janitor]

Wait - how is waiting for tomorrow to massclaim taking away info? I'd guess that if anything scum would have a lead on who's PR or not? And how is Ico claiming a guilty? sorry but I just don't grasp it.

[Ausuka]

I think I already said this but just to be clear, I'm a VT.

[Mathdino]

- massclaiming now allows town PRs to act with full draft knowledge, which benefits us. also allows us to control scum PRs (and lynch them if they don't follow our plan). honestly massclaiming should just become more popular in this setup in general. people afraid of it are wimps

- i know TW didn't jailkeeper iconeum, and icon claims roleblocked. this means that if icon is town, scum have a roleblocker. if we massclaim we can narrow down who that is.

are you a PR? you're probably claiming anyway today due to being a lynch option lol

Edit: yep thanks

[Ircher]

I know the worst, and you know the worst, and there is a 0% chance that the worst would ever jailkeep you after explicitly agreeing to my plan. He jailed Eddie Cane, dude. If not Eddie, then mutantdevle.

We're massclaiming. First step is everyone claiming VT vs PR. This can go in any order. Then we have to determine some optimal order for everyone claiming what roles they went for (VTs will still need to claim this down the line).

Not VT.

[Mathdino]

hey ausuka do you think the incongruencies in ircher's play can be explained by him being a PR?

[Ausuka]

I don't think there's a significant difference between ircher's play as a PR and a VT. To be fair I've only seen him as a Universal Backup but I'm pretty sure he'd play that the same way as any other PR.

[Eddie Cane]

VT

[Mathdino]

tbh i was afraid eddie was a commuter and icon checked him on the worst possible night

good to know we have a no-matter-what 1v1 between icon and a doc/roleblocker

[Taly]

Phoneposting now.

Went for Neighborizer, came back VT.

Neigborizer is higher up in the list.

[Ausuka]

I'm starting to think going for Neighbourizer may not have been the best move.

[Taly]

It's more popular than I thought.

[Mathdino]

Iconeum 1 - Cop
the worst 3 - Jailkeeper
Lalendra 5 - Role Cop
Ircher 11 - PR
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis 413 - ??
Mathdino 2 - 1-shot Vig
The Janitor 2 - ??
Beefster 4 - VT (tracker)
Taly 4 - VT (neighborizer)
Almost50 8 - VT (neighborizer)
mutantdevle 8 - ??
Ausuka 6 - VT (neighborizer)
Lovebird 6 - VT (tracker)
brassherald 6 - VT (??)

So the remaining PRs:
N3Vig/Venge
Doc/Roleblocker
Neighborizer/Vendor
1-shot Watcher/Commuter

are distributed among {Ircher, SIMYK, Janitor, mutant}.

I really hope mutant wasn't dumb and decided to pull an unpopular role.

Just need VT/PR claims from SIMYK, Janitor, and mutant.

Then I THINK it's better for VTs to claim from the bottom up? Not really sure.

Most likely the game's just solved though.

[The Janitor]

So the remaining PRs:
N3Vig/Venge
Doc/Roleblocker
Neighborizer/Vendor
1-shot Watcher/Commuter

are distributed among {Ircher, SIMYK,

Janitor

, mutant}.

Interesting. I'm a VT.

[Eddie Cane]

Asking the mod what Brass submitted

[mutantdevle]

I wish he was around more.

My apologies. I've been a mixture of a busy and avoiding the thread recently.

[mutantdevle]

I want to lynch in lalendra/janitor today.
Preferably janitor. Him flipping town confirms math as scum and vice versa. Scum!math I think is very unlikely to be pushing janitor just because of this reason. Hence janitor is good lynch.

It's possible I got jailed by the worst, but I think it's more likely there is a scum RB. Likely Lalendra based on position. We can lynch janitor over lalendra because there is only 1 role worth blocking left.

Killing lalendra and flipping RB will effectively kill me though.

Does a jail not go through if you are killed?

It does but the chances tw the TOWN jailkeeper intentionally roleblocked the cop are 0% and if Mafia killed you that was honestly quite a good thing considering the suspicion placed on you.

NGL Icon this result really does feel like scum who doesn't want to give a result over fear of associations.

[mutantdevle]

For the record, I'm going to ignore everything that Lalendra says about other players due to WIFOM bs.

[mutantdevle]

I'm VT.

May I just ask Eddie, did you already know that?

I can claim what role I submitted on command.

[Mathdino]

Damn.

Just waiting on Janitor/SIMYK then.

Beginning to think that having all the VTs claim first isn't really necessary and a claim order starting with the scummiest people would make a lot more sense.

Hype hype for the Cop/Doc showdown!