Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[yessiree]

VC 2.4

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

The Janitor (4) -

Mathdino, Ausuka, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis, Lalendra

Lalendra (3) -

Eddie Cane, The Janitor, Taly

Not voting

- davesaz, Iconeum, Ircher, mutantdevle

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-05-29 09:00:00)

[Ircher]

Iconeum 1 - Cop

the worst 3 - Jailkeeper

Lalendra 5 - Role Cop
Ircher 11 - Neighborizer
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis 413 - VT, Universal Backup/Rolecop
Mathdino 2 - 1-Shot Vigilante
The Janitor 2 - VT, ?

Beefster/Myloninja 4 - VT, Tracker

Taly 4 - VT, Neighborizer
Almost50/Davesaz 8 - VT, Neighborizer
mutantdevle 8 - VT, ?
Ausuka 6 - VT, Neighborizer

Lovebird 6 - VT, Tracker

brassherald/Eddie Cane 6 - VT, Tracker

[Mathdino]

does anyone else find it slightly difficult to believe that this many people went for tracker and neighborizer

considering those 2 roles were the first 2 claimed

fuck beefster/A50 this is exactly why those kinds of early claims are legitimately terrible for this setup

[Ircher]

So, we lynch Janitor under the assumption that they fakeclaimed VT and then we lynch Icon IF Janitor flips town?

Pedit: I mean, everyone loves Neighborizer! Not sure about tracker though....

[Mathdino]

if janitor flips town we get the lalendra lynch over with

then we'll see

scum probably kills me tonight regardless of the flip because i'm confirmed not doc/roleblocker

then they have a choice between shooting you, someone in the lynchpool, and shooting a VT, which makes it less likely icon was actually roleblocked

[Eddie Cane]

but it's not a high chance, it's a 50% chance if janitor flips scum which is not a certainty in itself.

and I hope saske went watcher cause its underrated asf

[Ircher]

I really think Janitor should've full-claimed before SIMYK claimed. Now if Janitor claims what they picked, it won't matter because they know the entire setup basically.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

and I hope saske went watcher cause its underrated asf

Sorry, I believe that UB is the MOST important role in this set up for town AND it is usually taken around the SIXTH slot so I did NOT

My original plan HOWEVER was to take it if there were LESS duplicates - I honestly figrued Math-sensei would pick it ┐(´-｀)┌

I really think Janitor should've full-claimed before SIMYK claimed. Now if Janitor claims what they picked, it won't matter because they know the entire setup basically.

If I am NOT mistaken then would it not have been a more IDEAL situation to claim from the bottom up in an ORGANIZED fashion? That is how I have seen PAST iterations of organized massclaims run but I am not good with setup information and took it to Math-sensei's hands. Had I been here EARLIER I would have queried about the utilization of such a strategy

[Mathdino]

a lot of people should've done a lot of things

i tried to be clear that people should just claim PR/VT and everyone claimed at the drop of a hat

at least with me, scum already knew there was a 1-shot vig

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

If I had read that I would have listened, sorry (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ

ANYWAY now that I am back I am going to do what I had promised ╭( ･ㅂ･)و ̑̑

[Mathdino]

but it's not a high chance, it's a 50% chance if janitor flips scum which is not a certainty in itself.

and I hope saske went watcher cause its underrated asf

dude with the size of our lynchpool, it's a LOT more than 50% chance, you know that

the gamesolve only works if iconeum's copcheck is freed up

[Ircher]

And that's true.

Okay, I got to be honest:

If the scum team is Lalendra/Janitor, I really don't see a good candidate for the third scum.
Same for Lalendra/Iconeum.

I guess this is more of me saying that the third scum is likely deep!wolfing rather than someone who is currently scumread by a good proportion of the players.

[The Janitor]

Sorry I was out for the entire day.

I tried for Neighborizer but didn't get it.

[Mathdino]

Iconeum 1 - Cop - 50%

the worst 3 - Jailkeeper

- 0%
Lalendra 5 - Role Cop - 90%
Ircher 11 - Neighborizer - 30%
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis 413 - VT, Universal Backup/Rolecop - 10%
Mathdino 2 - 1-Shot Vigilante - 0%
The Janitor 2 - VT, 60%

Beefster/Myloninja 4 - VT, Tracker

- 0%
Taly 4 - VT, Neighborizer - 5%
Almost50/Davesaz 8 - VT, Neighborizer - 10%
mutantdevle 8 - VT, ? - 5%
Ausuka 6 - VT, Neighborizer - 20%

Lovebird 6 - VT, Tracker

- 0%
brassherald/Eddie Cane 6 - VT, Tracker - 5%

my approximations

if you want to do it from your own standpoint, swap your value with my 0%

[Ausuka]

and there I was thinking the higher players on the draft wouldn't choose Neighbourizer because it doesn't have any real effect role-wise.

I still don't think I should be considered likely scum at this point. Like, there is absolutely no reason why scum!Ausuka would literally confscum her buddy who is in quite a good position post-claim when the vig had already been leashed to her.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

SIMYK, why do you think the vig is likely to be Mafia?

My INITIAL assumption was that town would stick to the plan Math-sensei had provided and shot Ausuka-chan for being the COUNTERWAGON to a town lynch, EVEN if that read was town the INFORMATION gained would be highly useful

HOWEVER I do must believe that Math-sensei would be the one whom would contradict his plans and for GOOD reason as well! So I no longer HOLD this belief (•̀o•́)ง

And that's true.

Okay, I got to be honest:

If the scum team is Lalendra/Janitor, I really don't see a good candidate for the third scum.
Same for Lalendra/Iconeum.

I guess this is more of me saying that the third scum is likely deep!wolfing rather than someone who is currently scumread by a good proportion of the players.

Whom have you considered thus far? My pick thus far would be DAVESAZ as the third and I do not realy see him as deep wolfing (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

ICHER can you walk me through HOW you decided I was the most likely DEEPWOLF from your prospective actually? Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)

[The Janitor]

Math if you're basing a scumread off of meta on me, what's my main, I'm curious. I'm not using this account again probably cause it's been proven to me that a fake name doesn't help me change my style

[Mathdino]

skitter30?

timestamps and turn of phrase match up

it's not necessarily just style, it's who was online when

people should really be giving more thoughts on iconeum literally claiming roleblocked

[Ircher]

SIMYK, why do you think the vig is likely to be Mafia?

My INITIAL assumption was that town would stick to the plan Math-sensei had provided and shot Ausuka-chan for being the COUNTERWAGON to a town lynch, EVEN if that read was town the INFORMATION gained would be highly useful

HOWEVER I do must believe that Math-sensei would be the one whom would contradict his plans and for GOOD reason as well! So I no longer HOLD this belief (•̀o•́)ง

And that's true.

Okay, I got to be honest:

If the scum team is Lalendra/Janitor, I really don't see a good candidate for the third scum.
Same for Lalendra/Iconeum.

I guess this is more of me saying that the third scum is likely deep!wolfing rather than someone who is currently scumread by a good proportion of the players.

Whom have you considered thus far? My pick thus far would be DAVESAZ as the third and I do not realy see him as deep wolfing (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

Oh yeah, I forgot davesaz.

But I was actually expecting you to be the Doctor/Roleblocker, so that was kinda a surprise. Anyway, I probably should reread the thread, but if I were to conjecture a third, I feel like you would have a good chance. I mean, you are basically universally townread (so was The Worst tbqh) and are in a position of the draft that could point to you being scum. This is again, more or less a conjecture that I'm not pursuing for quite awhile, just a thought I had.

I feel at this point that Mathdino basically is likely town because I don't think scum would risk defecting from plans when said deviation is liable to get them lynch; furthermore, I feel that if Mathdino is scum, they will be lynched eventually.

I've also considered Eddie being scum, but honestly, this consideration has no basis in fact and is more me just thinking randomly.

[Ircher]

Night Actions:
Iconeum copped ??? --> No result
I neighborized Taly --> Successful
Mathdino vigged Myloninja --> Successful
The Worst jailed ??? --> ???
Mafia killed The Worst --> Successful

[Mathdino]

i kind of hate myself for using this "logic" but i also hardcore gutread your posting as being from a girl and i don't really know why???

was either a current MS female scummer or gamma emerald and i ruled out gamma a while ago

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

skitter30?

NANI!?!??! щ(゜ロ゜щ)

but ANYWAY

Ircher I really think that IF you are town you shold make calls like that based on PLAY and not GAMESTATE - there would be VERY little difference between SCUM me and TOWN me here in terms of DRAFT since I would always pick the same number AND be townread (though I do not posses the verity of this fact within my personal lucidity, I do believe that I am a WEAK scumplayer whom can simply be caught on TONE alone) ┐(´-｀)┌

I suspected this would be a PLAY-BASED read but if it is merely conjecture then that merely makes the POINT i wanted to investigate moot (－‸ლ)

i kind of hate myself for using this "logic" but i also hardcore gutread your posting as being from a girl and i don't really know why???

was either a current MS female scummer or gamma emerald and i ruled out gamma a while ago

E-eh???

[Ircher]

skitter30?

timestamps and turn of phrase match up

it's not necessarily just style, it's who was online when

people should really be giving more thoughts on iconeum literally claiming roleblocked

I mean, didn't we basically agree that there is like a 0.00000001% chance The Worst jailed Iconeum? Iconeum should probably claim who they targeted though before day end.

Pedit: Currently, it is primarily a conjecture, more so a possibility rather than a probability at this point.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

ALSO I'm not really sure what THOUGHTS you desire here Math-sensei, claiming roleblocked seems like the NATURAL play for any 1st pick cop claim (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

INTERESTINGLY if Iconeum is MAFIA then this claim DOES open up the chance for mislynches and if he has a PARTNER low in the draft it could keep them OUT of the lynchpool for a while while ALSO giving him a reason to survive past D2 Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)

I do not know if this is worth being an eventual LYNCH if the witch-hunt is successful however, and this is only a POSSIBILITY and not a PROBABILITY I am willing to explore at the moment