Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[yessiree]

VC 2.5

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

The Janitor (4) -

Mathdino, Ausuka, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis, Lalendra

Lalendra (3) -

Eddie Cane, The Janitor, Taly

Not voting

- davesaz, Iconeum, Ircher, mutantdevle

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-05-29 09:00:00)

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

successful

*unsuccessful

[Mathdino]

you know we've probably won already and it's probably just iconeum/janitor/lalendra

would tie up the game pretty nicely

[Ircher]

Okay, I narrowed down the people that The Worst could have targeted down to 5. 4 if you exclude Iconeum.

[Mathdino]

my dude, the worst followed my plan and jailed in {Eddie, mutant, Taly}

he repeatedly said that he read my entire night plan and would follow through if i died last night

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

WHOM is the fourth person then? (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

[Ircher]

Sorry, it was actually 6/5 and it was basically based on what we know right now, not based on what was discussed N1:
The Worst's Jail Targets:

Iconeum

Lalendra

It's possible, but I don't think it is likely. Since we have basically determined that Lalendra is indeed a role cop, it makes no sense for Lalendra to claim a result D2 if they were jailed.

Ircher

I know that my action succeeded, so I could not have been jailed.
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

Mathdino

Mathdino claimed to have shot Myloninja, and there has been no counterclaims, so I think we can pretty much be certain that Math was not jailed.
The Janitor

Myloninja

A kill succeeded on them, and there were two kills. Thus, Myloninja could not have been jailed.
Taly
Davesaz
Mutant

Ausuka

Very unlikely that The Worst jailed Ausuka considering that Ausuka was supposed to be vigged, so that would interfere with the town's plan for the night.
Eddie Cane

I think the cop should check in Ausuka/Lalendra/the worst.

my dude, the worst followed my plan and jailed in {Eddie, mutant, Taly}
he repeatedly said that he read my entire night plan and would follow through if i died last night

If Iconeum tried to cop Ausuka, I'd be surprised; cops shouldn't cop vig targets. I also don't think Iconeum would cop The Worst. That leaves Lalendra as the most likely cop target, but that still doesn't seem quite right as Lalendra was to be circumstantially cleared by the lynch (going into the night), right?

[Ircher]

Oh wait, Iconeum would have gotten a result on Lalendra based on the above. So yeah, something doesn't add up because none of Iconeum's suggestions for cop checks would've produced a No Result, and no one claimed roleblocker or commuter.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

The LOGICAL conclusion here is that SOMEONE whom is a VT is LYING or that ICONEUM is lying ┐(´-｀)┌

THIS MEANS the PLAUSIBLE jails are all bad lynches REGARDLESS of claims BEFORE we find the roleblocker - as a BARE minimum the lynchpool should be {Davesaz, Janitor, Iconeum, SIMYK} if we are going to RESOLVE this dipole

[Ircher]

Yeah, so I think we basically just get Iconeum to claim their target then string up Janitor and go from there.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Just according to KEIKAU! (*•̀ᴗ•́*)و ̑̑

(Translator's note: Keikau means PLAN)

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

AUUUUUUUUUUGH

it's KEIKAKU this is WHY waking up at 2 AM is NOT a good KEIKAKU

[Mathdino]

we also need mutant's pick

it would be really damn nice if someone picked something other than tracker/neighborizer

[Iconeum]

I checked math and got no result

[Ircher]

Okay, so then it is definitely the case of either Iconeum lying or a scum roleblocker.

[Mathdino]

i mean checking me is a questionable/shit idea

i lean toward the idea that icon and janitor are actually both scum lol

but regardless of icon's alignment, janitor flipping roleblocker will give icon no excuse to not give results

[Ircher]

VOTE: Janitor

L-1

Someone can hammer when mutant claims their draft pick.

[Mathdino]

copcheck should be in {SIMYK, Ircher} if/when this flips scum roleblocker

i can't really think of better cop targets? eddie is practically conf, and so will i be

[Eddie Cane]

LYNCH LALENDRA

[Mathdino]

Do you give 0 shits about copchecks

[Eddie Cane]

you know we've probably won already and it's probably just iconeum/janitor/lalendra

would tie up the game pretty nicely

it's a POSSIBLE solve

you know what's certain?


LALENDRA

flip the now effective goon. this is basic mafia theory. come the fuck on people

[Eddie Cane]

Do you give 0 shits about copchecks

well you just said the cop was scum but

cop could be town with no town doc claim sure

you always lynch confirmed scum.

[Eddie Cane]

if you want full wifom which you apparently do, not only is janitor less than 50% role locker as explained hes also probably less likely than his partners. the way he was the main wagon for a while means one of his voters would likely be a partner and bussing the best xcum pr in a hugely town sided game is not a thing that happens.the rb is most likely who ever the third scum is, possibly it dossnt exist and its iconeum, otherwise it's the third. what if lalendra faked her BUDDIES role?I've seen that. you always lunch confirmed scum. basic. mafia. theory.

[Eddie Cane]

I checked math and got no result

hey look someone in this goddam game listens to me

[Mathdino]

no, because your gamesolve relies on the cop getting actual checks on people

the theoretically town cop CAN'T get checks on people as long as a mafia roleblocker is alive

we lynch the most likely roleblocker and that's janitor

what mechanical benefit is there to lynching lalendra the role cop now after massclaim has already happened?

you're speaking in general principles and i'm asking you how lalendra's lynch actually helps us