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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 2223, Impossibear wrote:FTR, playerlist based only:

Likely to shoot our slot:

Jungle>RCdra>random player caught confirmable crumbs.

It's not a hard guilty on Dave or RC, but it is definitely good evidence. We need to reread Dave to make sure you're not wrong there ETL.

Regardless, RC isn't the right play specifically today, because if Jungle is scum RC becomes conftown in my book and we learn that tomorrow based on the quest existing/not existing.

PEdit: Are you saying the mod didn't tell you about previous actions? If so, did you ask if your slot had acted previously?
Yes. That is what I am saying.

No I didn’t ask. I figured she didn’t act or Gif would include it. Hebichan has flaked on games before so I thought she flaked.

Low and behold when she posted I got so confused.
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:04 am

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i had protective read on Mark - only protective, who haven't acted, would know that scum kill wasn't blocked, but rb is close enough i guess
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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:05 am

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Like I know this sounds bad but uhmmmm

Apparently now I am <redacted> Roleblocker with a side of mod induced amnesia.

Very much down for policying Davesaz.

RC is scum if Dave is town because RC said he would work with me if I tried with him and instead he calls me bad.
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:06 am

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In post 2222, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2216, Impossibear wrote:
In post 2208, OnTheMark wrote:Etl do you see why I have a problem with your setup spec now?

Somethings don’t add up.
Roleblocker has an absurd elegance as the protective for reasons. Unfortunately, I don't think

my setup spec, not ETL's, and no. I'm actually still pretty down with my hold on the setup, assuming I haven't missed anything. I need to catch up, but don't have enough time to guarantee I'll be able to. :(
Your/Jingle’s setup spec says I am scum. I am a roleblocker. I am town. So I don’t see how you can hold onto that.
You said it yourself, roleblocker fits as the missing protective. My setup spec said it was likely scum had something to fuck with our actions, which is still true.

Oh, and your varsoon school of modding point is either misapplied or completely wrong. Consider the setup 3 goons v 1 cop 9VT. Day three, you can have 4 unlynchables, which is more than the number of scum, and the setup is a scumwin 99% of the time.
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:07 am

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Protip I literally never shoot your slot as scum.
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:07 am

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I want to reread Dave before committing to that.

Also, I need to consider whether we're in massclaim territory.
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:08 am

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In post 2228, Impossibear wrote:
In post 2222, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2216, Impossibear wrote:
In post 2208, OnTheMark wrote:Etl do you see why I have a problem with your setup spec now?

Somethings don’t add up.
Roleblocker has an absurd elegance as the protective for reasons. Unfortunately, I don't think

my setup spec, not ETL's, and no. I'm actually still pretty down with my hold on the setup, assuming I haven't missed anything. I need to catch up, but don't have enough time to guarantee I'll be able to. :(
Your/Jingle’s setup spec says I am scum. I am a roleblocker. I am town. So I don’t see how you can hold onto that.
You said it yourself, roleblocker fits as the missing protective. My setup spec said it was likely scum had something to fuck with our actions, which is still true.

Oh, and your varsoon school of modding point is either misapplied or completely wrong. Consider the setup 3 goons v 1 cop 9VT. Day three, you can have 4 unlynchables, which is more than the number of scum, and the setup is a scumwin 99% of the time.
Yay let’s agree to disagree on setup spec and catch scum.

So since I am working with a clock here til my likely modkill how about we start with getting my head on straight.

List of all claims pretty please?

And lynch davesaz.
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:08 am

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OTM my confusion came from thinking you uwere calling Davesaz town for being roleblocked

If you say he is roleblocked I'm down for lynching them
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:10 am

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In post 2229, Ouroboros wrote:Protip I literally never shoot your slot as scum.
That is just objectively bad play on your part, then, because you know I tend to tunnel you regardless of your alignment. Protip: If you're tired of getting policy lynched by BoP as scum, try to trim the playerlist to include fewer people who are receptive to that with the scumkill.
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:11 am

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That totally lines up with Hebichan's d1 read on me. And it lines up with my PR read on the slot.

It wouldn't affect the night's results given I don't have an action to begin with, but if town feels I must be removed given miller, I'd understand it. No mislynch is ever
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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 2232, Dunnstral wrote:OTM my confusion came from thinking you uwere calling Davesaz town for being roleblocked

If you say he is roleblocked I'm down for lynching them
I am tired.

I forgot about something. I brainfarted

I blocked them please Lynch dave
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:11 am

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It's not.

My scum play is more advanced than your rationale.

I've never ever been polciy/bop lynched as scum.
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:12 am

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In post 2236, Ouroboros wrote:It's not.

My scum play is more advanced than your rationale.

I've never ever been polciy/bop lynched as scum.
Please stop with your incessant ego trip.
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 2234, davesaz wrote:That totally lines up with Hebichan's d1 read on me. And it lines up with my PR read on the slot.

It wouldn't affect the night's results given I don't have an action to begin with, but if town feels I must be removed given miller, I'd understand it. No mislynch is ever
good
but whatever is needed.
Oh this isn’t regarding Miller.

I would want you unless town confirmed IC. You were blocked and we are missing a kill.

Doing this shows whether it is you who did the kill or if scum tried to shoot ETL.

I thought it was ETL because mod didn’t tell me about Dave.
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 2236, Ouroboros wrote:It's not.

My scum play is more advanced than your rationale.

I've never ever been polciy/bop lynched as scum.
If Dave is scum lynch this for BoP as IMhO he would be scum.

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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:15 am

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Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:15 am

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Claims:

Impossibear: ? BP Vig
Wilky: Miller Slow Cop
Jungle: Weird JOAT/Dreaming God w/ 1shot daycop
You: Roleblocker
Kaede: IC
Davesaz: Miller
Tchill: Non weak hider

Flipped:
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:16 am

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Do we think scum claim miller straight away?
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:16 am

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In post 2240, Alchemist21 wrote:Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.
Or targeted Dave.
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 2240, Alchemist21 wrote:Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.
Lol uhmmm yes because Hebichan as scum would completely ignore scum chat, randomly post that she blocked someone despite me crumbling and literally saying otherwise. She would also completely ignore scum chat and then randomly post resulting in the slots inevitable mod kill. Because scum wins through modkilling themselves!

That’s a brilliant plan that I will never ever try.
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 2239, OnTheMark wrote:If Dave is scum lynch this for BoP as IMhO he would be scum.
Actually, I can grok this.
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 2242, Impossibear wrote:Do we think scum claim miller straight away?
If Miller is their actual role, I would say yes.
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:17 am

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In post 2242, Impossibear wrote:Do we think scum claim miller straight away?
Yes. It’s the same rule with ascetic.

If you are and don’t it’s a scum claim later.
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:18 am

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i don't think this is good jingle. too many variables. both could be town and if dave flips town half the thread will want to lynch otm who could also be town. then that's 3 down plus night kills. we have to wait for more
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2018 11:19 am

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In post 2240, Alchemist21 wrote:Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.
Because we're on a deadline to get information if Math is going to get modkilled, so we make the assumptions that net the most usable information, cutting down on wasted time. We can reconsider if no mod action happens, but worrying about Math's alignment is literally the last concern we should have atm.
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