Micro 803: The Coalition

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.3
Voter	Coalition
Wisdom	the worst	Ausuka	Hiraki
Hiraki	the worst	Myloninja13	Wisdom
Not_Mafia
NeenieKit	Ausuka
Myloninja13	the worst	Ausuka	Myloninja13
Mathdino	Myloninja13
Invisibility	Mathdino	the worst	Ausuka	Wisdom	Invisibility
Ausuka	Wisdom	the worst	Myloninja13	Mathdino	Ausuka
the worst	Wisdom	Invisibility	Ausuka	Hiraki
(expired on 2018-06-08 18:59:59)

[the worst]

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=75961

If you're into it I found this game a really good read (esp for a newbie). Problem is it just finished so he'd know what we're looking for.

End of discussion for now tho dude

pedit: northsidegal? More like NINJAsidegal

[Mathdino]

And Mathdino just isn't playing like he's into this. Like, I know he's staying back and all but it really kinda seems like he's avoiding putting out proper opinions on people.

you're correct that i'm not into this
my take is either we win immediately or we have a long slog of a micro with a sub-20% chance of winning
guns blazing just doesn't feel appropriate here, i can't think in "okay how many mislynches and how many conftown do we have"

regarding math i have this feeling that hes intentionally not playing very protown because that's whats expected from scum him

but idk how scum math is and if he tries to play to townmeta or not
I just feel like wed be normally be at the samelength here about townies best interest being to be strongly town and we arent

the thing is that i think i AM playing pro-town
all day i've been modeling how scum "should" play here in terms of interactives, meta manipulation, votes, etc
but 2 players have basically not checked in and i detest handing out town badges when 1/4 of the rest of the game has no content

i intend to fully gamesolve
i don't believe individual reading is really appropriate here unless you're good at gutreading or soulreading, which i'm not

Math is the #1 player who we should probably try and avoid reading too hard until closer to EOD

that's dumb
1. you have literally never seen me as scum
2. the game that i thought was my best scum performance tonally (newbie 1864), i got caught off tone and had a big endgame discussion about why i was scum D1

i have a compromise though

[the worst]

If you're town pls roll with my idea

[the worst]

I have a lot more town experience than scum experience with you

[Wisdom]

HEAL: mylo
HEAL: wisdom

this is a good block for now

[Mathdino]

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=75961

If you're into it I found this game a really good read (esp for a newbie). Problem is it just finished so he'd know what we're looking for.

End of discussion for now tho dude

pedit: northsidegal? More like NINJAsidegal

and you ninja'd me

@Mylo, worst, Wisdom: Tell you what, I offer this. I have lots of thoughts that I do not think are appropriate to share.

I'll have NSG set up a PT and start chatting her a "journal" of sorts, and I'll post it later.

I'm really not concerned about not powertowning right now because

- I think you guys underestimate how fucking long it's going to take to get 5 townies to agree on each other with a 3 week deadline. Unless everyone is a pushover and the entire group is just some dumb shit like Mylo-sheeping-Duck-sheeping-Wisdom.

- Call it overconfidence but I especially don't think 5 townies are going to be able to settle on definite townreads before I sign off on it. TECHNICALLY this should be my strong suit, in that I'm great at townhunting and not great at scumhunting.
But my early games are also incredibly awkward and I'm kind of regretting not waiting for a replace-in spot or playing under a hidden alt so I don't get NK'd.

I want to say I'll be sorted by the NK because that's kind of a meme in games with me but this is Mountainous so fuck everything, all bets are off.

[Mathdino]

HEAL: mylo
HEAL: wisdom

this is a good block for now

- I think you guys underestimate how fucking long it's going to take to get 5 townies to agree on each other with a 3 week deadline. Unless everyone is a pushover and the entire group is just some dumb shit like Mylo-sheeping-Duck-sheeping-Wisdom.

fuck. me.

[the worst]

GDI MATH

[Wisdom]

but 2 players have basically not checked in and i detest handing out town badges when 1/4 of the rest of the game has no content

what do lurkers have to do with you expressing if someone is town or not

[Mathdino]

i would like everyone to unvote themselves so the coalition doesn't get lolhammered thank you

unless your coalition has me in it in which case i promise not to lolhammer by withholding my self-vote

[Mathdino]

GDI MATH

i really don't think anything i said would've impacted anything

but for the purposes of reading you, please explain

but 2 players have basically not checked in and i detest handing out town badges when 1/4 of the rest of the game has no content

what do lurkers have to do with you expressing if someone is town or not

their scumminess makes everyone else townier
their towniness would affirm scum in the current coalition

if we were deciding on a lynch then sure, fine, i'll hop on wagons all days

but coalitioning requires a full gamesolve and i'm currently very commitment-averse to showing my hand

[the worst]

i would like everyone to unvote themselves so the coalition doesn't get lolhammered thank you

unless your coalition has me in it in which case i promise not to lolhammer by withholding my self-vote

quoted for same

[Wisdom]

Unless everyone is a pushover and the entire group is just some dumb shit like Mylo-sheeping-Duck-sheeping-Wisdom.

I dont get what youre trying to say here

[Mathdino]

invisibility is obviously an alt right? i was just about to ask him for offsite meta but it looks like that's not gonna work

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[the worst]

I was trying to highly highly unsubtly crumb that I think I know why you are sitting back

Also before EOD your intention is going to be extremely obvious imo which is towncred simply by opening yourself to being read

If you played conventionalDino with this list I think you know you get into the D1 coalition

[the worst]

Invisibility is an alt?

[Mathdino]

Unless everyone is a pushover and the entire group is just some dumb shit like Mylo-sheeping-Duck-sheeping-Wisdom.

I dont get what youre trying to say here

if everyone is a pushover and the entire coalition is basically led by 2 people, with 3 people who just wanna be in the townbloc so they'll vote for anything

then phase 1 will end quickly, which would be very bad for my readability going forward

Edit: is 215 the stuff that you thought i was trying not to say? because that wasn't a huge secret, i just wasn't articulating it well lol
granted i have no interest in articulating anything well sooooOOOO
and yeah i always get into the coalition by just being myself and faking reads

invisibility really seems like an alt by post history

[the worst]

I was trying to highly highly unsubtly crumb that I think I know why you are sitting back

Also before EOD your intention is going to be extremely obvious imo which is towncred simply by opening yourself to being read

If you played conventionalDino with this list I think you know you get into the D1 coalition

In my brain I am tiering players by readability in equal parts to towniness if that helps clarify

Phone posting while dodging rain I think my sense doesn't make words next to each other

[the worst]

Unless everyone is a pushover and the entire group is just some dumb shit like Mylo-sheeping-Duck-sheeping-Wisdom.

I dont get what youre trying to say here

if everyone is a pushover and the entire coalition is basically led by 2 people, with 3 people who just wanna be in the townbloc so they'll vote for anything

then phase 1 will end quickly, which would be very bad for my readability going forward

Edit: is 215 the stuff that you thought i was trying not to say? because that wasn't a huge secret, i just wasn't articulating it well lol
granted i have no interest in articulating anything well sooooOOOO
and yeah i always get into the coalition by just being myself and faking reads

invisibility really seems like an alt by post history

Yes but exactly zero people were paying attention
I thought it was distinctly useful to speculate about other players and ignore you until you let us read intent

Sue me

[Wisdom]

HURT: wisdom

the only thing i agreed with is we need no lolhammers here

[the worst]

invisibility really seems like an alt by post history

I'm a little on the fence but I see it


Unconventional method time :
Invisibility are you an alt?
Also while we're at it are you town?

[Not_Mafia]

I'm town

[the worst]

That's a relief!

[Not_Mafia]

HEAL: Not_Mafia
HEAL: the worst