Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like do you think we have a roleblocker, a doctor and a bulletproof vig?

[Ouroboros]

Hint: town has at least one protective role and there's some obvious saves in this game.

What makes you so sure of that.

truthfully I think there is literally a 0% chance that scum did not attempt to kill me

Like do you think we have a roleblocker, a doctor and a bulletproof vig?

i don't believe the bulletproof vig claim because it implies scum have a strongman and if they did they'd have used it.
sorry to out them if they're town claiming bulletproof for protective purposes but I'd rather they die than I do so.

[Ouroboros]

And I mean: I wouldn't bring Davesaz to endgame if no other explanation comes up. But there's better lynches for today and later in the game we'll get more info about what the setup looks like and why the scum kill might not have happened.
Making a hasty decision on lynching him today when it's possible there's a town JK or doc or both or some other combinations of kill prevention and we don't know that today is poorly considered at best.

[OnTheMark]

Hint: town has at least one protective role and there's some obvious saves in this game.

What makes you so sure of that.

truthfully I think there is literally a 0% chance that scum did not attempt to kill me

Like do you think we have a roleblocker, a doctor and a bulletproof vig?

i don't believe the bulletproof vig claim because it implies scum have a strongman and if they did they'd have used it.
sorry to out them if they're town claiming bulletproof for protective purposes but I'd rather they die than I do so.

I doubt scum have a strongman.

My modifier runs directly antithesis to them having one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Or a scum doctor, since there's a vig.

[Ouroboros]

Scum doctor doesn't explain the lack of a nightkill and I think it's more likely that scum's role is jailkeeper with a town doctor anyway

[OnTheMark]

It’s why I partial claimed darling.

Been waiting for someone to pull what you’re pulling.

[Ouroboros]

is this how every game with you is going to go because if so I'd like to go back to you not replacing into games with me. the way you're treating my slot makes this game zero fun for me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean we still have the following possibilities
ETL was shot
ETL is actually scum that shot MWNN
Scum also shot MWNN
Dave is scum that got rb'd
I got shot and saved by a doc
Ouroboros got shot and saved by a doc.
Scum no killed.

[Ouroboros]

all of the above by kaede is correct and later in the game we'll have a much clearer picture of whether it had to be the roleblock or whether there's a likely alternative explanation.

[OnTheMark]

is this how every game with you is going to go because if so I'd like to go back to you not replacing into games with me. the way you're treating my slot makes this game zero fun for me.

You mean how I won’t let you have your mislynch?

You realize RC you saying your better than everyone is the same thing?

I just have the humility to accept that I am flawed but only push when I think it is necessary? That I can plan a claim properly to bait out likely scum?

If you were town you’d be lynching Dave with me.

[OnTheMark]

I mean we still have the following possibilities
ETL was shot
ETL is actually scum that shot MWNN
Scum also shot MWNN
Dave is scum that got rb'd
I got shot and saved by a doc
Ouroboros got shot and saved by a doc.
Scum no killed.

Scum no killed is not valid.

And my modifier makes it VERY unlikely a town doc exists.

[Ouroboros]

is this how every game with you is going to go because if so I'd like to go back to you not replacing into games with me. the way you're treating my slot makes this game zero fun for me.

If you were town you’d be lynching Dave with me.

No! I am not! Why do you think that you know what I would do as town or scum! It's a profoundly irrational position to have! If you knew what I'd do in situations then you would be able to read me!

[Ouroboros]

You do not know how to extrapolate town power roles from whatever you have!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Confirmed Town Power:
IC
VT

Claimed Town Power:
BP Vig
Roleblocker/JK
Quest Giver
Hider that doesnt die on scum
Miller
Miller with additional abilities

Confirmed Scum Power:
Bodyswapper

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So what happens if we add Doc to that list?

BP blocks kill on themselves
Roleblocker blocks kill if on killer
Doc blocks kill if on the killed
Hider blocks kill on themselves but dies if their target is hit

or if the RB is actually JK.

BP blocks kill on themselves
Jailkeeper blocks kill if on killer or killed
Doc blocks kill if on the killed
Hider blocks kill on themselves but dies if their target is hit

That's 4 or 5 ways to block the kill from scum we had a playerlist of 18, let's assume 4 scum that's 14.

that's about 29% chance scum kill is innefective.

[Ouroboros]

Like I know you're all very sweet people but you're killing me here.

Please let me 1v1 wraith, lynch us and get me out of the game if I'm wrong.

[OnTheMark]

So what happens if we add Doc to that list?

BP blocks kill on themselves
Roleblocker blocks kill if on killer
Doc blocks kill if on the killed
Hider blocks kill on themselves but dies if their target is hit

or if the RB is actually JK.

BP blocks kill on themselves
Jailkeeper blocks kill if on killer or killed
Doc blocks kill if on the killed
Hider blocks kill on themselves but dies if their target is hit

That's 4 or 5 ways to block the kill from scum we had a playerlist of 18, let's assume 4 scum that's 14.

that's about 29% chance scum kill is innefective.

+1 Add that my modifier adds another super secret bit to that it’s more like 45% with a doc. Without claiming it’s hard to say that and I am trying to make sure ETL and those with more influence move onto the next day to lynch RC.

[Ouroboros]

Without claiming it’s hard to say that and I am trying to make sure ETL and those with more influence move onto the next day to lynch RC.

what if I'm town and you're planning all of your little games around trying to fuck with someone who is town and tired of getting fucked with because of their scumgame when town?

[OnTheMark]

Without claiming it’s hard to say that and I am trying to make sure ETL and those with more influence move onto the next day to lynch RC.

what if I'm town and you're planning all of your little games around trying to fuck with someone who is town and tired of getting fucked with because of their scumgame when town?

If you’re town you’re so antitown you’re town in name only.

You say you want to 1v1 Wraith yet provide no reasons.

I have damn near close to an airtight case here and you’re torpedoing it.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

what if I'm town and you're planning all of your little games around trying to fuck with someone who is town and tired of getting fucked with

This seems familiar.

[Ouroboros]

Anyway for everyone's sanities let's do this.
Impossibear hammers Wraith, if I'm wrong then vig us and get us out of the game or lynch us tomorrow if you'd prefer.
I can't play this game like this. I have Wraith to still go on because I had that read on before but it's literally impossible to play mafia when everyone's goal is to isolate me as much as possible.

If you’re town you’re so antitown you’re town in name only.

You say you want to 1v1 Wraith yet provide no reasons.

I have damn near close to an airtight case here and you’re torpedoing it.

I roleblocked someone and no nightkill -> AIRTIGHT.

[OnTheMark]

Anyway for everyone's sanities let's do this.
Impossibear hammers Wraith, if I'm wrong then vig us and get us out of the game or lynch us tomorrow if you'd prefer.
I can't play this game like this. I have Wraith to still go on because I had that read on before but it's literally impossible to play mafia when everyone's goal is to isolate me as much as possible.

If you’re town you’re so antitown you’re town in name only.

You say you want to 1v1 Wraith yet provide no reasons.

I have damn near close to an airtight case here and you’re torpedoing it.

I roleblocked someone and no nightkill -> AIRTIGHT.

That’s why I said damn near. Especially with my modifier.

[OnTheMark]

what if I'm town and you're planning all of your little games around trying to fuck with someone who is town and tired of getting fucked with

This seems familiar.

Let me make this easy.

ETL who are we lynching?

[Ouroboros]

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