Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Ramcius]

You should vote ProjectMatt then!

VOTE: ProjectMatt

sure

yikes, alright

UNVOTE

VOTE: Ramcius

took you long enough after all shade you threw my way in this game

i mean, not really. the only reason i switched from you to dunnstral is because you reacted semi-decently to the pressure on you, and it seemed like dunnscum was slipping under the radar.

what made you decide to vote me, ramcius?

Peer pressure

i mean, not really. the only reason i switched from you to dunnstral is because you reacted semi-decently to the pressure on you, and it seemed like dunnscum was slipping under the radar.

what made you decide to vote me, ramcius?

Peer pressure

do you think im mafia? why or why not?

i had townlean on Nero, you give me scum vibes, but it might be just your playstyle, so null i'd say

Not liking a Dave wagon anymore. VOTE: TChill/punreader

why we not lynching this?

this isn't a town progression btw.
Projectmatt is also trying to push the wagon elsewhere.

Sorry that i want lynch my scumreads over my nulls

[projectmatt]

so, you're not going to explain or respond to my response?

that's a shame.

[Ouroboros]

Nope it's not a hard response to make as scum.

[Dunnstral]

The resistance to this wagon is telling

[Ankamius]

What wagon

[projectmatt]

Nope it's not a hard response to make as scum.

so you cant even explain what you mean by "projectmatt is also trying to push the wagon elsewhere"?

[projectmatt]

why do people even play mafia if they dont want to engage

[Ankamius]

Because the game is solvable without it

[Ramcius]

i'm starting understand why so many people lurks in these games - talking is just asking for trouble

[Ankamius]

No it's because the game is solvable by mechanics so talking isn't necessary

[Ramcius]

i was speaking in general

game shouldn't be solvable by mechanics, it takes all the fun of the game

[Ankamius]

I was being sarcastic

Either way I don't see why we have to sort the nightkill shit today when we can be advancing everyone's individual reads and sort it later, which also helps not destroy the game in the process

[OnTheMark]

No it's because the game is solvable by mechanics so talking isn't necessary

This type of attitude (echoed by several players) is the problem.

I am not claiming the game is solvable without talking.

I AM saying that TODAY mechanics should decide the lynch barring an extremely convincing case from someone. I need to look at RC’s case and see how much it ruminates over today/a little into tomorrow while I am for the most part afk.

If it isn’t convincing others we will need to converge on Dave to avoid no lynch.

[Ankamius]

I'm probably being too mean by this point but I still don't understand the thought process behind it

This kind of game state benefits scum more than town in almost all cases

[OnTheMark]

I was being sarcastic

Either way I don't see why we have to sort the nightkill shit today when we can be advancing everyone's individual reads and sort it later, which also helps not destroy the game in the process

It has to be sorted today because it results in the most likely scum and because I will almost certainly be dead tomorrow and scum don’t want to resolve it today.

[projectmatt]

everyone is bad but me

[OnTheMark]

If Dave was town scum would have pushed Dave and we mislynched him.

[Ankamius]

And that doesn't give info in of itself?

While also helping everyone who doesn't care about it still care about the game?

Davesaz death does fuck all for my reads because I don't find the case on him convincing enough and I don't have a read on him that makes me want him dead anyways.

So

[Ouroboros]

If Dave was town scum would have pushed Dave and we mislynched him.

not that simple bud.

[Ankamius]

Why Mark

Why do that when we are imploding enough as it is

[projectmatt]

ourosboros, i find it pretty weak that you made a case against me and then accused me of trying to change the wagon, but you refuse to engage with me or elaborate on your thoughts about those things. it shows me that your scumhunting isn't based on logic but rather the annoying kind of stubbornness that makes me get annoyed at every mafiascum game i join.

[Wraith]

Not liking a Dave wagon anymore. VOTE: TChill/punreader

why we not lynching this?

If you're wondering why it's because my gut is increasingly telling me that OTM is running a scum gambit to mislynch a claimed Miller.

There's been so many PR claims so far that I'm starting to rethink just believing all of them blindly.

[Ankamius]

Actually let's play this game too

Why is your claim trustworthy enough to sheep blindly, ignoring how dubious the guilty is

[Ouroboros]

The only reason we're imploding is because people are actively resisting having a town leader because of who the town leader is and no one else is stepping up to the plate.

ourosboros, i find it pretty weak that you made a case against me and then accused me of trying to change the wagon, but you refuse to engage with me or elaborate on your thoughts about those things. it shows me that your scumhunting isn't based on logic but rather the annoying kind of stubbornness that makes me get annoyed at every mafiascum game i join.

I'm stubborn, sure.

[projectmatt]

i'm also stubborn, but the difference between us is that one of us is logical too.