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Post Post #3150 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:28 am

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In post 3148, Wraith wrote:
In post 3146, Ankamius wrote:Or you're just scum I guess

That would explain the reads pretty well actually
At this point I'm honestly on the fence with whether RC radically changing their reads every five minutes is just RC being RC or deliberate muddying of the water. This game is maddening because there's so much noise I can't focus.
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Post Post #3151 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:29 am

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In post 3143, Wraith wrote:People calling for my fucking lynch need to start putting their money where their mouths are.

For some reason it seems like someone new calls for it every page but a winning wagon never seems to materialize. Funny that. It's almost like scum are trying to convince the townies to make the first move so they can avoid getting tagged with the guilt tomorrow.
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Post Post #3152 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:30 am

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TBH at this point my flip will probably tell the town more than a live me going forward. Practically everyone has expressed some sort of opinion on me and I think the hindsight will be telling.
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Post Post #3153 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:31 am

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And also if the town doesn't mislynch me I am practically guaranteed to make it to endgame by now as well. I'm too useful a target for scum, I'd be extremely surprised if they killed me.
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Post Post #3154 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 3153, Wraith wrote:And also if the town doesn't mislynch me I am practically guaranteed to make it to endgame by now as well. I'm too useful a target for scum, I'd be extremely surprised if they killed me.
why you so sure Impo wouldn't vig you?
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Post Post #3155 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:36 am

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In post 3154, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3153, Wraith wrote:And also if the town doesn't mislynch me I am practically guaranteed to make it to endgame by now as well. I'm too useful a target for scum, I'd be extremely surprised if they killed me.
why you so sure Impo wouldn't vig you?
That's up to Impo.
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Post Post #3156 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:38 am

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In post 3146, Ankamius wrote:Or you're just scum I guess

That would explain the reads pretty well actually
Lol

We’ve been over this I cannot be scum.

You’re either not reading the game or just desperate because I suspected you.

You omgus is showing.

I gotta go but that’s my needs to die pile
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Post Post #3157 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:47 am

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4 pages behind and it's been a nonstop day of work. Bottom of 123.
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Post Post #3158 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:48 am

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dunno how many votes Ram has, so im just gonna say that I support that wagon.
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #3159 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:49 am

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In post 3061, Ouroboros wrote:He just has this Dunnstral scumread and pushes it, no explanation, insults a bunch of the popular wagons, no explanation, explains why Tchill is included in his scumpool earlier in the game but no explanation of why anyone there is scum.
Btw i just wanted to say that this is pretty hypocritical :lol:
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #3160 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:49 am

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In post 3158, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:dunno how many votes Ram has, so im just gonna say that I support that wagon.
I don’t.

I have too many in my need to die and Ramicus doesn’t make the cut.
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Post Post #3161 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:52 am

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In post 3137, OnTheMark wrote:Dave Wraith ProjectMatt
Ank
RC
ETL
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should have all the scums I think
You mean this list?
Back to my old main for now

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Post Post #3162 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:53 am

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In post 3161, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 3137, OnTheMark wrote:Dave Wraith ProjectMatt
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You mean this list?
Yes and I don’t agree with the green coloring
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Post Post #3163 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:54 am

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In post 3156, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 3146, Ankamius wrote:Or you're just scum I guess

That would explain the reads pretty well actually
Lol

We’ve been over this I cannot be scum.

You’re either not reading the game or just desperate because I suspected you.

You omgus is showing.

I gotta go but that’s my needs to die pile
Go into it

You should also be very damn aware that I can do this as town because we did this for two fucking months in undertale

You're not a leader because you're under this weird illusion that disagreeing with you = scum

Then you put the three people I'm strongly townreading in your death pile

Like

Wtf am I supposed to think about you this game after that
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Post Post #3164 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:55 am

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man can we lynch ventriloquist again
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Post Post #3165 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:56 am

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In post 437, Ventriloquist wrote:@Ouroboros, you were suspicious of my thought process on Tchill (by suggesting he could be jester, i.e. misconstued to suggest we shouldn't vote for him ) yet you're not scumreading Tchill, a bit of an alignment disconnect don't you think?
This like

miight spew tchil scum

hm
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Post Post #3166 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 10:57 am

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Like

I really want you to be scum because your play and reads are just insane

It's frustrating because you were even more insane in undertale and flipped town anyways

And I can't even ignore you because you're choking out the game when you're here
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Post Post #3167 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 1997, OnTheMark wrote:FYI if it becomes relevant N1 my replacement apparently was affected by radiation and submitted no action.

That will become relevant when I flip. That’s all I plan on claiming and I think if anyone has milk I will be your friend forever. Milk make people strong. Mark hopes people find milk of human kindness soon.
In post 2036, Impossibear wrote:if they didn't shoot someone who was protected, then either we got shot or someone was blocked and the blocked person is confscum.
In post 2191, hebichan wrote:So, I have something so say here that could change everything. Since I've been gone a few days please uh... let me apologize for not bringing this up pages ago..

I roleblocked davesv.

If we're claiming that the only nightkill was a vig shot off impossibear, then I'm pretty sure I blocked the kill.

VOTE: dave slot
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In post 2195, Impossibear wrote:
In post 2191, hebichan wrote:So, I have something so say here that could change everything. Since I've been gone a few days please uh... let me apologize for not bringing this up pages ago..

I roleblocked davesv.

If we're claiming that the only nightkill was a vig shot off impossibear, then I'm pretty sure I blocked the kill.

VOTE: dave slot
yeah ok but otm says he was prevented from acting N1.

besides the fact that everything otm has said sounds like bs...
Uhm the mod made a mistake and fixed it

I legit don’t know what to say here.

Like uhmmmm

I am a roleblocker. Hence why we’re the protective of sorts.

Yay thanks gif
This was an incredibly opportunistic series of events in hindsight and I don't see where the mod corrected a mistake.

At the same time the fact that OTM also posted this:
In post 2105, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 208, davesaz wrote:
In post 193, wilky wrote:
Flavour Claim:


One of my abilities is that I am a prototype synth, my win condition is to eliminate the institute but upon investigation I will show as sided with the institute.
Is your
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Fair's fair. My role is Commonwealth Miller, and for flavor in the "abilities" section I'm a former institute scientist who will investigate as Institute.
Never lynch Davesaz like ever.
Before the reveal of the roleblock makes me seriously doubt this very assessment.

But once again, at the same time I don't like OTM's entrance into the game now that I'm catching up gradually. I might be stuck in a gut-based tunnel and might have a bias problem going in, though. Once I'm caught up fully I need to read some ISOs, chiefly Kokichi, Maria, and Matt/Nero

This is really baffling. It generally looks insanely scummy but the complete and seemingly genuine reversal on Dave is the one thing preventing me from going full-on for an OTM lynch right now.
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Post Post #3168 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:10 am

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I'm actually nto confident at all in my ramcius/nero dichotomy rn and it makes me sad.
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Post Post #3169 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:12 am

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What do you mean dichotomy

I thought you scumread both independently
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Post Post #3170 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:12 am

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In post 2227, OnTheMark wrote:Like I know this sounds bad but uhmmmm

Apparently now I am <redacted> Roleblocker with a side of mod induced amnesia.

Very much down for policying Davesaz.

RC is scum if Dave is town because RC said he would work with me if I tried with him and instead he calls me bad.
Jesus christ there's so many mixed messages with this shit it's infuriating.

This reads like an insanely scummy post. If OTM or hebichan had come out against Dave from the start things would be clear-cut. Let me try to explain my line of thinking.

* Hebichan as scum RB blocks (or doesn't, this is still possible in this scenario) Dave N1
* Scumteam shoots Impossibear, shot blocked by vest
* Hebi comes out guns blazing against Impossibear dawn D2
* Impossibear claims BP vig and claims the kill on MWNN, meaning scumkill was prevented somehow
* Hebi claims RB and claims she blocked Dave N1
* There's replacement dissonance where OTM genuinely didn't know about the block against Dave

Okay now that I've laid it out like this it's a little more clear to me. It's entirely plausible either way - either Town!OTM was unaware that hebi RB'd Dave N1; or Scum!Hebi changed tacts without realizing she'd already been replaced, and Scum!OTM adjusted in turn.

So the claim can still be fake.

I'm up to page 90 at this point, I'll try to get back to this later tonight.
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Post Post #3171 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:15 am

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I'm going to see where Anony stands on davesaz/tchill and maybe we'll just vote one of them, idk.

I have bad feeling sabout Ramcius wagon. PJM still probscum though?
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Post Post #3172 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 2240, Alchemist21 wrote:Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.
Alchemist consistently proves himself to be town.
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Post Post #3173 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:16 am

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In post 2244, OnTheMark wrote:
In post 2240, Alchemist21 wrote:Part of me wonders why we're assuming Town Roleblocker and not scum Roleblocker here. The other part of me thinks scum wouldn't have claimed here anyway.
Lol uhmmm yes because Hebichan as scum would completely ignore scum chat, randomly post that she blocked someone despite me crumbling and literally saying otherwise. She would also completely ignore scum chat and then randomly post resulting in the slots inevitable mod kill. Because scum wins through modkilling themselves!

That’s a brilliant plan that I will never ever try.
This is fallacious as it assumes Hebi was aware she had been replaced, which was clearly not the case.
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Post Post #3174 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2018 11:17 am

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My reads are wrong somewhere: I don't know where. I can't solve this game alone and I don't think I'll be alive long enough to get any more information.

Sigh.
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