Open 725: Jungle Republic - Day 5

[the worst]

Trying to currently, it's boredom>anything else
Why vote espe there?

[skitter30]

why does like anyone want to lynch me again?

I don't like like any of your votes

probably mostly resultant of boredom, conventional scumhunting is deeply unexciting when half of my original thoughts end up at "could be scum".

the hell even is a multiball towntell?

ok, but your votes are still mostly :/

and idk what a multiball towntell is; that's why I'm really trying to divide the game into 'people I'm willing to lynch today' and 'people I'm not willing to lynch today' instead of giving out townreads.

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pin, fumuki is reminding me a lot of you in 1859 (specifically the crazy logic that they keep pushing even though like no one agrees with them, and the hard insistence on what exactly scum would be thinking in this setup).

What do you think?

I also kinda hate that he's had like three people that he's insisted he was going to push through to a lynch and then drop the push when there's pushback.

Like he's very like loudly confident in his scumreads but when people disagree he drops back and stops pushing it. So it feels kinda blustery I guess? Idk what the right word is.

[skitter30]

I also feel like ud's votes are very hop-on-y? Like he's been pushing people already under pressure for 'reasons' that he won't explain and has often been joining the latest cool wagon with very little buildup/explanation to his votes (ie I'm talking about his vote on me and his vote on espeonage right here)

[the worst]

Lol. UD's refusal to drop reasons might be wolf indicative. He doesn't seem concerned with the fact he could theoretically eat the night kill. Like, at a spiritual level.

Am I tinfoiling too hard?

[ManWithNoName]

If Fumuki is not on this wagon, I'm not interested in it that much, with one vote being on my encouragement and another being a full scum read of mine.

VOTE: CeeJayvinovaVOTE:

Did I spell it right, this time?

[ceejayvinoya]

No. So it doesn't count

[Fumuki]

pin, fumuki is reminding me a lot of you in 1859 (specifically the crazy logic that they keep pushing even though like no one agrees with them, and the hard insistence on what exactly scum would be thinking in this setup).

What do you think?

No offense meant, but I'm pretty sure that you simply don't know how I play skitter.

In Open 722, a Red Flag setup, I screamed on everyone because I had a particular opinion on how scum were going to play there, I even did hard-buddy a scum just because in my strategy the easy lynchs should be done later.

I was town. If you disagree with me it's okay but consider it NAI.

I also kinda hate that

he's had like three people

that he's insisted he was going to push through to a lynch and then drop the push when there's pushback.

What three people? I pushed both Sando and Espeonage, and I'm still willing to vote them, but I'm reevaluating Sando until I read 80 pages of Open 720 and it seems Espeonage isn't getting lynched today because he lurked so much that I haven't even much to say of him and my main argument already lost momentum.

By the way, you say that I drop it when there's pushback but did you read my 1v1 for 5 pages with Sando or what? If that's not being out for blood I don't know what is.

Like

he's very like loudly confident in his scumreads but when people disagree he drops back and stops pushing it

. So it feels kinda blustery I guess? Idk what the right word is.

See what I said about my previous scum read up there, especially what made me stop

for now

pushing Espeonage.

Anyway, deadline is coming and I have at least for today some *reasons* for not wanting a TW lynch, although I'll not try to stop it at all. Just stating.

[Fumuki]

Lol. UD's refusal to drop reasons might be wolf indicative. He doesn't seem concerned with the fact he could theoretically eat the night kill. Like, at a spiritual level.

Am I tinfoiling too hard?

I would like to say no but he saying that he would state his reasons in day 2 or even later sounds as if he didn't seriously consider that he could simply end up dead and silenced. It's something that I kind of don't understand, but isn't there some three or so people saying that UD is town by meta?

I'm sheeping that read however just to clarify to everyone, does he do that kind of thing as town? And do you think that his meta would change in a multiball?

Btw I don't think that UD hopping on wagons is scummy and that doesn't make much sense to me. Scum are probably scum hunting here, if someone is just sheeping it's more because they're lazy than something AI.

[ArcAngel9]

TheYankeeReaper has failed to respond to the prods. Hence, he has been force replaced.

The deadline for day 1 has been frozen until his replacement is available.

[ManWithNoName]

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

[Fumuki]

Ceejay wagon...?

Hm...

To be honest Ceejay sounds scummy regardless of alignment .-.

I didn't want to push him because I think that as I've played with him twice already + have read plenty of his games, I can sort out him later more precisely.

And no, I don't have enough yet to tell for certain Ceejay alignment here if I'm basing myself on meta (and it's dangerous to read him based sole on gameplay).

But hehhh...

Sorry Ceejay, I'm not buddying you here at all...

gl gl gl avoiding the rope

[pinturicchio]

@skitter there's a slight difference: I played like Light Yagami in Death Note not knowing that the bad guy was me, so I used logic to think what would scum do in this or that particular situation; here Fumuki is talking about optimal strategy in any Jungle Republic setup. You could take all his posts out of this game, paste them in another Jungle Republic and tadaaa, nothing changes.

@UD you played with Not_Mafia in another game, why is it weird for you what he's doing in this game? Or are you asking 'cause you see similarities with that game? Also could you please put some effort dude I know this is how you play but I think the main reason you're not the biggest wagon in the game is because I'm pushing against it and some help would be useful.

[ManWithNoName]

Isn't the worst at L-1?

[ManWithNoName]

I think he is, intent to hammer.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: theworst

[ArcAngel9]

VOTE COUNT - 1.11

ManWithNoName

-

skitter30

-

Espeonage

- ceejayvinoya, AP, UglyDuck

Sando

- , skitter30, ,

the worst

- Espeonage, TheYankeeReaper, Not_Mafia, Sando

ceejayvinoya

- pinturicchio, the worst, ManWithNoName

TheYankeeReaper

-

UglyDuck

-

pinturicchio

-

Not_Mafia

-

AP

-

Fumuki

-

Not Voting

Fumuki, ,

With 12 alive it takes 7 for a lynch and 6 for no lynch.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-05-27 19:17:00)

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[ManWithNoName]

That doubly didn't work... Vote Count at a bad time.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: ceejay

[Fumuki]

VOTE: theworst

WOAH WOAH WOAH

LYNCH THIS

NOW

I'M NOT BACKING DOWN

TOWN!NOT_MAFIA LOLHAMMERING WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE POWER ROLE?

I DON'T THINK SO

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[ManWithNoName]

VOTE: theworst

WOAH WOAH WOAH

LYNCH THIS

NOW

I'M NOT BACKING DOWN

TOWN!NOT_MAFIA LOLHAMMERING WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE POWER ROLE?

I DON'T THINK SO

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Lol, this guy!

[Fumuki]

HE HAS PLAYED PLENTY IN THIS SETUP TO KNOW THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE TOWN POWER ROLE AND THAT POWER ROLE IS SUPER IMPORTANT

HE DOESN'T SIMPLY COME AND LOLHAMMER SOMEONE THAT DIDN'T CLAIM YET

THAT'S HOW MATH DID CATCH SCUM!NOT_MAFIA IN TWO GAMES ALREADY

IT'S ALMOST THE UNIQUE WAY TO READ NOT_MAFIA

ASK ANYONE HERE THAT PLAYED IN OPEN 720 IF THAT ISN'T TRUE

NOT_MAFIA IS GETTING LYNCHED TODAY FOR ME, AND I'LL KEEP SCREAMING TILL THE END OF THE DAY FOR THAT

[ManWithNoName]

VOTE: the worst

VOTE: theworst

He didn't lolhammer, he didn't even move his vote.

[Fumuki]

Okay, that's a valid point MWNN.

I yet defer to say that maybe he even

forgot

where his vote was, but maybe he simply tried to get a reaction from TW.

VOTE: unvote

[Fumuki]

Btw I knew that he wasn't lolhammered, what I was counting was the intention, however if Not_Mafia already was voting for TW I've no idea of what case scenario it was:

1. He knew that he was voting for TW already and just wanted a reaction

2. He forgot that his vote already was in TW

and I think that possibility #1 sounds a little more likely if he already was voting so...

*shrugs*

[Fumuki]

Okay, we've four days and it's either TW, CJ or Espe apparently (seeing the VC because I have no more forces to start pushing a new wagon).

I already stated that I don't want a TW lynch this early, I feel more confident to sort CJ as the days go on and even if anyone disagrees with my reasons, I'm still scum reading Espe even if it's weak, and he is the hardest to sort because he apparently only show up to defend himself and to say that we should vote a certain person.

We can't mislynch here, and I don't want a TW lynch today and don't feel confident calling Ceejay scum knowing some good part of his meta. By PoE here I'm voting Espeonage.

VOTE: Espeonage