Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[xRECKONERx]

oh man.

nsg/brian are the team?

nsg's kill got blocked by pine, brian jumps in with the WELL UH IT COULD'VE BEEN ME to save her, discredits pine's claim, now is pushing the doctor acting like pine's claim was just so believable that i should've protected pine

[xRECKONERx]

@mod: pine is dead

[Firebringer]

Wtf when did Maria join this

[Brian Skies]

but but but pine wasn't confirmed RB i thought??????

that was your whole argument for not wanting to go through on the nsg lynch

that's LITERALLY YOUR WHOLE POINT

and yet now it's OH WELL YOU OBVIOUSLY SHOULD'VE PROTECTED PINE EVEN THOUGH I MYSELF SAID HIS RB CLAIM WASN'T VERIFIED

what is this scum logic

When the hell did I say that he wasn't confirmed RB? It's true that he wasn't, but why does this matter?

My literal argument isn't even that 'Pine isn't confirmed Roleblocker.' I thought he was probably town and stated as such anyway. I just don't think his claimed action was a hard guilty.

Like literally, there are THREE claimed roles that could've stopped the kill (mine, yours, and Pine's). So the correct play is to disregard Pine's actions and actually assess NSG off of play. Which you can't be assed to do, because you're scum.

[MariaR]

Wtf when did Maria join this

Hi puppy!

[MariaR]

All I see atm are loud voices yelling at Reck for claiming doc.
I like this already

There was no kill on N1.

Pine claimed to roleblock NSG.
I claimed Bulletproof.
So logically speaking, Pine's roleblock isn't a hardguilty.
But yet, this is pretty much the only thing some people are capable of arguing about since the start of Day 2.

Reck mostly pushed for NSG's lynch because 'information' and he doesn't even think NSG is scummy.
Today we asked him to claim and he claimed 2-Shot doc with a protection on Gammagooey N1. So he should have known that Pine's Roleblock wasn't a hard guilty, but he can't be assed to assess NSG's play.

Now he's citing crumbs, one of which came

after

I already claimed Bulletproof. And he's also trying to use another post as a crumb, although it mostly just feels like he was scum knowing someone prevented the kill and that he didn't want them to claim.

Reck has no interest in actually sorting this mess. He just wants a lynch. And his bullshit about an NSG lynch telling us what actually happened on Night 1 is bullshit because assuming he is telling the truth about protecting Gamma Night 1 and NSG flips town, we still wouldn't know whether the kill was stopped by him or me.

Also he didn't even protect Pine, our claimed Roleblocker. So fuck him.

Reck can you respond to this

[Firebringer]

Wtf when did Maria join this

Hi puppy!

Ur in ur scum play mood friend

[MariaR]

Wtf when did Maria join this

Hi puppy!

Ur in ur scum play mood friend

Maybe~

[Vaxkiller]

So 141?

[Vaxkiller]

All I see atm are loud voices yelling at Reck for claiming doc.
I like this already

Like what page did you click on?

I went back like 2 pages

So, like, page 141?

[xRECKONERx]

@brian

i fail to see how me crumbing my role after you claimed bulletproof is some kind of fucking smoking gun

pine already claimed, i wasn't planning to claim too, then you claimed, i saw this heading for the goddamn clusterfuck it has become so i crumbed my role as a stopgap measure INCASE THIS EXACT THING HAPPENED

i would gladly accept a lynch on brian today in lieu of nsg that would also clear up some stupid shit and brian's argument is just too wishy washy for me to believe he would actually believe it as town

[MariaR]

All I see atm are loud voices yelling at Reck for claiming doc.
I like this already

Like what page did you click on?

I went back like 2 pages

So, like, page 141?

ye I read like
143>141>142 weird order but meh

[xRECKONERx]

LMFAO

brian's whole fucking day 2 shtick about why we shouldn't lynch nsg was "whoa now we don't know what stopped the kill!! we don't even know if pine is really a roleblocker!! or there could be other roles!!"

so while brian was dicking around with "WhO kNoWs WhAt Is TrUe!?!?!?" he simultaneously expected me to be so locked in on pine telling the truth that i would protect him due to knowing his claim was true?
instead of protecting the person i protected n1 who I had a big town read on and thought scum may try to kill again if they failed the first time???

[Untrod Tripod]

@mod: pine is dead

Yep.

I'm adding 48 hours to the deadline to help the incoming replacements.

With 14 alive, it’s 8 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2018-06-01 18:00:00)

[Brian Skies]

I would be okay with being lynched, but only if it means that people stop bitching about Pine's claim being some magical hard guilty on NSG when it isn't. And also if you all promise to lynch Reck for being a blatant scumfuck.

[Brian Skies]

LMFAO

brian's whole fucking day 2 shtick about why we shouldn't lynch nsg was "whoa now we don't know what stopped the kill!! we don't even know if pine is really a roleblocker!! or there could be other roles!!"

so while brian was dicking around with "WhO kNoWs WhAt Is TrUe!?!?!?" he simultaneously expected me to be so locked in on pine telling the truth that i would protect him due to knowing his claim was true?
instead of protecting the person i protected n1 who I had a big town read on and thought scum may try to kill again if they failed the first time???

Also this is so fucking disingenuous and false.

And if you're actually a doc, then YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE FUCKING KNOWN BETTER THAN TO PUSH THAT SHIT.

[MariaR]

When you have so many claims that can stop a kill
a BP
a roleblock
a doctor
and who knows what else.
It isn't a hard guilty on a slot and people pushing that are more then likely scum just read the slot itself and base it on that.

[Brian Skies]

When you have so many claims that can stop a kill
a BP
a roleblock
a doctor
and who knows what else.
It isn't a hard guilty on a slot and people pushing that are more then likely scum just read the slot itself and base it on that.

Guess who's just blindly pushing it?

RECK!

Vote him.

[Brian Skies]

so while brian was dicking around with "WhO kNoWs WhAt Is TrUe!?!?!?" he simultaneously expected me to be so locked in on pine telling the truth that i would protect him due to knowing his claim was true?
instead of protecting the person i protected n1 who I had a big town read on and thought scum may try to kill again if they failed the first time???

Like, if you thought Pine had a guilty on NSG, then WHY NOT FUCKING PROTECT THE CLAIMED ROLEBLOCKER WHO CAN BLOCK SCUM AND FIND US MORE SCUM?

Like, this is such a bullshit excuse to not protect Pine and explain away a lack of protection on that slot.

[xRECKONERx]

okay i started to iso brian to reread the stuff yesterday and the first bit of it doesn't line up with my memory

however, i was just told by my work that EMERGENCY we actually DO have to update our site's privacy policy to be compliant with the new EU law so i'm going to be out of pocket for the rest of the day probably and tomorrow too

[Brian Skies]

Don't worry. I'll do my best to have you lynched before you come back.

[xRECKONERx]

I dont like recks post about them thinking scum would kill brain and that means nsg is scum. It's really fucking me read up on them.

no, nsg needs to be lynched due to pine's night actions

Again, ELI5, how this is confirmed.

it's not confirmed
im arguing that nsg living til lylo with a potential "guilty" on her in terms of a rb stopping the kill is not possible

if she's a mislynch, scum can bank on her being easy mislynch fodder later due to pine's rb claim
if she's a scum lynch, then we win

either way it's a pro-town move

QUOTING AGAIN FOR EMPHASIS

[xRECKONERx]

the stuff that didn't line up is that brian never doubted pine's claim

in fact, he took it to be true

but still tried to discredit it by saying "ooooh well it could've been anything"

i seriously debated whether to protect brian, pine, or gamma last night. and i landed on gamma because i had already protected him once and i had an actual town read on him

[xRECKONERx]

actually brian why didn't you ever doubt pine's claim? you and nsg both seemed to immediately be like "yes he is a roleblocker uh-huh it's just irrelevant"

that's weird to me and i don't know how to read it. i think as town you'd be more suspicious of the rb if you don't believe nsg was the kill source.

i sorta found it shocking that people believed brian was a strong nk target because he wasn't standing out to me as some bastion of townieness d1 but maybe he was, i dunno

trying to get as many thoughts out there before i have to go

[Brian Skies]

the stuff that didn't line up is that brian never doubted pine's claim

in fact, he took it to be true

but still tried to discredit it by saying "ooooh well it could've been anything"

I mostly explained it as me just as easily being the cause of the lack of NK as him roleblocking NSG, which is true.

And then I asked for people to explain how NSG's play was scum-indicative and that I would vote there if someone could convince me. To which no one did.