Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[OnTheMark]

If you’re scum and not a cop then you have to guess.

If you’re town then you just tell the truth.

I won’t announce whether I am blocking you or not. Call me scum all you like but tonight will act as a check on you regardless of what I do.

Your first post will Be claim results.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

#WhenBadTownGetPowerRoles

[OnTheMark]

#WhenBadTownGetPowerRoles

Omg ETL agrees with me on something

But wilky isn’t bad town just incorrect

[EspeciallyTheLies]

#WhenBadTownGetPowerRoles

Omg ETL agrees with me on something

But wilky isn’t bad town just incorrect

I was talking about you.

[OnTheMark]

Yet you continue to attack arguments as bad.

The mere fact I am a roleblocker means I act as a check on Wilky if we both live.

[Ramcius]

#WhenBadTownGetPowerRoles

Omg ETL agrees with me on something

But wilky isn’t bad town just incorrect

so, Wilky is scum then?

[OnTheMark]

#WhenBadTownGetPowerRoles

Omg ETL agrees with me on something

But wilky isn’t bad town just incorrect

I was talking about you.

Then yay more calling me bad than refuting the points.

Even if you take Kaede’s made up number of thirty percent chance something else happened Dave has a 70% chance of being scum. Not lynching Dave is antitown as fuck.

[OnTheMark]

#WhenBadTownGetPowerRoles

Omg ETL agrees with me on something

But wilky isn’t bad town just incorrect

so, Wilky is scum then?

No. He’s just incorrect.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

You absolutely better not block wilky. We've already discussed that he's not making it to LYLO and that he will be sorted one way or the other before too long. Instead of using your ability intelligently, you're rather trying to play some silly gambit against a possibly useful role that will be resolved without your interference. You are actively going against the consensus agreement of the majority of universal townreads who all also happen to be very good players in general.

If that ain't the definition of antitown, I don't know what is.

pedit:

Yet you continue to attack arguments as bad.

The mere fact I am a roleblocker means I act as a check on Wilky if we both live.

What the fuck... no. No you don't. This would be true if there was only one scum left. Instead if wilky is actually town, not only do you deny town additional information, but you give the scumteam a free block. If wilky is scum, his buddy will just perform the kill.

It's fucking pointless trying to explain anything to you because I know you're just going to keep going on with your ridiculous crap ideas that have no basis in reality.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede’s made up number

It's not made up number, it's math.

[OnTheMark]

You absolutely better not block wilky. We've already discussed that he's not making it to LYLO and that he will be sorted one way or the other before too long. Instead of using your ability intelligently, you're rather trying to play some silly gambit against a possibly useful role that will be resolved without your interference. You are actively going against the consensus agreement of the majority of universal townreads who all also happen to be very good players in general.

If that ain't the definition of antitown, I don't know what is.

pedit:

Yet you continue to attack arguments as bad.

The mere fact I am a roleblocker means I act as a check on Wilky if we both live.

What the fuck... no. No you don't. This would be true if there was only one scum left. Instead if wilky is actually town, not only do you deny town additional information, but you give the scumteam a free block. If wilky is scum, his buddy will just perform the kill.

It's fucking pointless trying to explain anything to you because I know you're just going to keep going on with your ridiculous crap ideas that have no basis in reality.

And if I acknowledge that as “right” (whether I agree with it or not is immaterial) and wilky is scum he knows he wouldn’t be blocked. If I don’t acknowledge that as “right” if wilky is scum he has to panick as to whether to perform the result.

And thing Mafia elemental trinity
I can literally name tons of games where a majority of townreads are wrong. Popular != right otherwise every lynch would be a scum one.

[OnTheMark]

Kaede’s made up number

It's not made up number, it's math.

And again I already tore that apart

It’s Dave is scum
ETL is scum
Or RC is scum

Or possibly more than one

People just don’t listen because ETL and RC are more popular and say more bullshit and I can’t communicate as well as others

[OnTheMark]

The threat of me blocking wilky has to remain in case I am wrong and somehow the Sky is falling

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Popular != right otherwise every lynch would be a scum one.

I didn't say popular. I said most of them are really good players with a history of being right.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Kaede’s made up number

It's not made up number, it's math.

And again I already tore that apart

It’s Dave is scum
ETL is scum
Or RC is scum

Or possibly more than one

People just don’t listen because ETL and RC are more popular and say more bullshit and I can’t communicate as well as others

1 BP
1 RB
1 hider

These have already been claimed. Assume all are town. This is at least 3 ways that mafia can fail the NK.

Whatever. I don't know why I'm still getting involved with this circus. It's cluttering up the thread with garbage.

[OnTheMark]

Yes we have.

And the odds of scum killing Tchill13 are abysmal since claimed hider so that can’t be what happened.

[OnTheMark]

You’re just grasping at straws to avoid the logical thing. And I am going to keep trying for it til I can’t.

[Ramcius]

Kaede’s made up number

It's not made up number, it's math.

And again I already tore that apart

It’s Dave is scum
ETL is scum
Or RC is scum

Or possibly more than one

People just don’t listen because ETL and RC are more popular and say more bullshit and I can’t communicate as well as others

1 BP
1 RB
1 hider

These have already been claimed. Assume all are town. This is at least 3 ways that mafia can fail the NK.

Whatever. I don't know why I'm still getting involved with this circus. It's cluttering up the thread with garbage.

didn't Pun said Tchill haven't submitted night action? So hider out of the question, we are arguing RB now, so that's too out of question, so it leaves your BP or there's other protective. Lastly, scum for some strange reason attacked MNWN

[OnTheMark]

Kaede’s made up number

It's not made up number, it's math.

And again I already tore that apart

It’s Dave is scum
ETL is scum
Or RC is scum

Or possibly more than one

People just don’t listen because ETL and RC are more popular and say more bullshit and I can’t communicate as well as others

1 BP
1 RB
1 hider

These have already been claimed. Assume all are town. This is at least 3 ways that mafia can fail the NK.

Whatever. I don't know why I'm still getting involved with this circus. It's cluttering up the thread with garbage.

didn't Pun said Tchill haven't submitted night action? So hider out of the question, we are arguing RB now, so that's too out of question, so it leaves your BP or there's other protective. Lastly, scum for some strange reason attacked MNWN

RB means Dave scum.

BP shooting ETL is the only other option

Another protective existing at this point would surely be scum and scum don’t block their NK.

And I suggested scum shot MWNN and was laughed at so that is gone.

It’s literally Dave or ETL is the consensus.

[Kokichi Oma]

This game is going nowhere

[OnTheMark]

I mean you can try to argue scum blocked their own night kill but that would get more eyebrows than anything else here I think.

[Kokichi Oma]

Otm count the people that would be willing to vote dave

[Ramcius]

I mean you can try to argue scum blocked their own night kill but that would get more eyebrows than anything else here I think.

indeed, that would be ridiculous, also, there's an option that scum just forgot submit kill, i've seen in past that and town was going crazy about missing kill next day

[wilky]

If I don’t block you and you say a result AND you’re town. << That is the predecessor.

Consider it how you like but it’s pretty much clear I am not scum and this threat is empty. I may roleblock I may not.

I already explained the stance and it is airtight.

If you’re scum and guess right the section is not met for “and you’re town”

And roleblocking you and you accurately saying you were blocked proves you have an action that you can tell I can block which Ergo confirms me as a blocker and confirms therefore I can block Davex

Consider that bolded part and think about it another way then. I am town you roleblock me and I confirm in thread that I have no result as I was roleblocked. That won't result with you conceding that I am town as I could have just guessed right which ergo proves my fucking point. You roleblocking me is pointless as it proves nothing on my alignment and denies us a cop result.

[Dunnstral]

Roleblocking Wilky is dumb