Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

stop avoiding to follow simple logic because it leads where you dont want to

[Wisdom]

kokichi isnt a townie

you wanted me to move kokichi out

[northsidegal]

Okay then it's nsg/eddie/koki


@nsg you said you were wanting to lynch 3 for most of the day yes? Way before anything else.
From town!nsg perspective you wanting to lynch g3 means you think 2+scum in there. And you had me as a scumread. You weren't pushing for it nearly as much as you were pushing it for it now.

From what I can see the only relevant thing that changed for you is that I started voting for g1 and you are now townreading me.

Your sudden commitment to the g3 lynch comes at an opportunistic time for you. Plus the teams that you must have been thinking of before are either invalidated by your townread of me or you've changed your reads on fitz/rmoj without any posts from them.

I feel like I'm not explaining myself clearly but basically the change in justification for lynching g3 earlier in day 2 compared to now does not fit.

Pedit - eddie: I was saying all of that to nsg

You're ignoring what i'm saying. I'm not sure if it's willingly or not. If it isn't, i want to tell you again -

read what i am saying to you and please respond directly to it.

[Eddie Cane]

simple logic is you literlaly agreeing with me theres 2 scum in group 3

[Wisdom]

i dont agree with you because im not townreading you

[Eddie Cane]

kokichi isnt a townie

you wanted me to move kokichi out

so I could undo your action because it was anti town, yes. notice how I never stopped voting the group with kokichi? lmao.

[Eddie Cane]

i dont agree with you because im not townreading you

we have different points of view jackass

[northsidegal]

@nsg you said you were wanting to lynch 3 for most of the day yes? Way before anything else.
From town!nsg perspective you wanting to lynch g3 means you think 2+scum in there. And you had me as a scumread. You weren't pushing for it nearly as much as you were pushing it for it now.

From what I can see the only relevant thing that changed for you is that I started voting for g1 and you are now townreading me.

Your sudden commitment to the g3 lynch comes at an opportunistic time for you. Plus the teams that you must have been thinking of before are either invalidated by your townread of me or you've changed your reads on fitz/rmoj without any posts from them.

I feel like I'm not explaining myself clearly but basically the change in justification for lynching g3 earlier in day 2 compared to now does not fit.

What?

There hasn't been any change in justification? The justification has

literally always

been that i townread wisdom and think that there's a maximum of one scum in eddie/muffinman. like, you cna go back to the beginning of the day and see that. it's factually

indisputable

.

[Wisdom]

and no, simple logic is that muffin does not partition in a way that kills him and loses the game

therefore there is no choice between muffin and nsg, its nsg. and you have zero excuse not voting her.

[northsidegal]

i don't think people get that i am not thinking in terms of teams

at all

outside of who i

don't

believe to be scum. it really doesn't matter all that much to me exactly

who

in G3 is scum - i just firmy believe that there are at least 2 of them there.

[Eddie Cane]

and no, simple logic is that muffin does not partition in a way that kills him and loses the game

therefore there is no choice between muffin and nsg, its nsg. and you have zero excuse not voting her.

2 scum is better than probably 1

therefore, get your head out of your sss you confbiased shitstain

k I'm doneposting here for tonight it's an echo chamber we need more voices

I'll vote 1 if there isnt enugh support for 3

[northsidegal]

@bujaber

unless the team is exactly {eddie, kokichi, muffin} (which i doubt), i think i'm leaning towards group 3 today.

disagreeing with wisdom here - i haven't reread to fully solidify this yet, but i still townread kokichi and looking back i think people were too quick to townread bujaber.

i get the feeling that i'm going to lose this game

that being said, i still townread wisdom and i'm pretty sure that eddie/muffin aren't partnered, so i feel pretty safe in voting 3

[Wisdom]

kokichi isnt a townie

you wanted me to move kokichi out

so I could undo your action because it was anti town, yes. notice how I never stopped voting the group with kokichi? lmao.

So why didnt you undo it? You could have moved Riku back.

[BuJaber]

@nsg - I did read it. If I townread you then g3 is the obvious lynch. However I haven't seen justification to townread you. As I'm trying to explain, your actions seem scummy to me.

Pedit - maybe so but you'd be saying this too as scum. So like the way the game state is currently makes it so that you want to lynch g3 regardless of alignment from your pov. Because you can't push for eddie/muffin or wisdom as scum anymore. So as either alignment you only have g3 as an option that you'd publicly claim.

So it is up to me to decide whether you're doing it as town or scum. To do so I have to factor in what you've done (for example the change in reads, surge in posts, justification for reads, interactions with others)


All the above directed at nsg

[BuJaber]

Wisdom she's good... I actually am more convinced that she's scum after I started voting g1 than before but I feel bad about lynching her.

[Eddie Cane]

kokichi isnt a townie

you wanted me to move kokichi out

so I could undo your action because it was anti town, yes. notice how I never stopped voting the group with kokichi? lmao.

So why didnt you undo it? You could have moved Riku back.

I was fine not lynching him. I would've done it after the second swap when everyone coalesced onto 3 immediately, but I wasnt around. that's what pissed me off so much.

[northsidegal]

@nsg - I did read it. If I townread you then g3 is the obvious lynch. However I haven't seen justification to townread you. As I'm trying to explain, your actions seem scummy to me.

I am telling you where the evidence is to townread me. You seem committed to completely ignoring it.

Pedit - maybe so but you'd be saying this too as scum. So like the way the game state is currently makes it so that you want to lynch g3 regardless of alignment from your pov. Because you can't push for eddie/muffin or wisdom as scum anymore. So as either alignment you only have g3 as an option that you'd publicly claim.

No, I wouldn't be saying this as scum, because

it wouldn't be true as scum.

If there exists a clear distinction between my game as town and as scum, then as scum I can't rely on that to clear me except as a bluff that I expect nobody to call me on. I'm not bluffing.

"But wait", i hear someone say. "People can manipulate their meta!"

No. Not in this way. All it would take is someone

actually reading

to see why that's not true. Again - I'm not boon.

[northsidegal]

Wisdom she's good... I actually am more convinced that she's scum after I started voting g1 than before but I feel bad about lynching her.

I am not good as scum.

People seem to have this idea but i literally have no idea where it comes from and i hate it more than anything.

Why do you utterly refuse to read and force me to keep bashing this against your skull?

Please literally read anything that i'm talking about.

[northsidegal]

wait, i just remembered that you were my scumbuddy in double elimination.

what are you even talking about then, bu? you of all people should know what i'm saying. i literally

did not post once

that game becaues i was scum.

[Wisdom]

I was fine not lynching him.

What?

[northsidegal]

you were also my buddy in open 716, which i flaked out of (the only game so far i've ever replaced out of).

what is your deal? you of all people should

know

what i'm talking about.

[Eddie Cane]

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Groups have changed. The vote count has been reset.

VOTE COUNT 1.8

1	2	3
DeasVail	BuJaber	dramonic
Eddie Cane	Kokichi Oma	riku
havingfitz	Pine	SirCakez
northsidegal	REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE	zMuffinMan
	Wisdom

Group 1

(0):

Group 2

(0):

Group 3

(0):
Not voting: 13 (BuJaber, DeasVail, dramonic, Eddie Cane, havingfitz, Kokichi Oma, northsidegal, Pine, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE, riku, SirCakez, Wisdom, zMuffinMan)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-05-20 23:00:00).

Riku

[Wisdom]

Yeah, youre saying that if i had switched kokichi, you woukd have put him back
Why did you not do it with riku?

[Eddie Cane]

I believe everyone has spoken

Swap Riku and REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE

VOTE: group 3

I told you not to do this

VOTE: Group 2

now wisdom, does scum me fight as hard as I did against an all town group 3 lunch?

guess I was wking

[Eddie Cane]

Yeah, youre saying that if i had switched kokichi, you woukd have put him back
Why did you not do it with riku?

riku wasnt scummy