Micro 803: The Coalition

[NeenieKit]

Hiraki was involved in catching her day one in a recent game.

[the worst]

yeah. I didn't go back that far.

let me mull it over Neenie, just keep being you as much as you can.

[Invisibility]

@hiraki and nm

if your block fails, who should be the first to go?

[Mathdino]

Thebrie is supposed to be obvscum as scum if KTS is to be believed

Should be a 100% sort after meta

[NeenieKit]

Trouble is she's usually obv scum as scum, but sometimes stupid as town.

@hiraki and nm

if your block fails, who should be the first to go?

I strongly second this question. What is your contingency plan?

It is questions like this which make me like Vizzy.

[Myloninja13]

Although Ido like the townbloc, I'll third this question. Who do we lynch if it fails?

[Mathdino]

Can we take a second to appreciate that Hiraki has literally put the 4 hardest to read players in the game all in his coalition

I have no fucking clue who to lynch *when* that fails

Probably Not_Mafia

[Myloninja13]

Who do you think is pretty strong town here Math?

[the worst]

Gut = Brie/Neenie town

[Myloninja13]

IDK how to read them to be honest lol.

[Wisdom]

It doesn't help that everyone not in Hiraki's group is being scummy as fuck

tho I think I might put Neenie back in. It doesn't make much sense to point me to her scumgame if she's scum here

[Mathdino]

Scummy is not scum indicative

I've been pretty clear about how tilting this setup is for me

[Mathdino]

Like honestly I'm pretty checked out because I don't see a reasonable avenue to getting 4 people who I actually think are town, to townread me

Everyone knows walls are NAI and I don't AtE so all I have is my burden of proficiency which means fuckall in a stagnant setup like this

It's just not fun
I don't really get what people think scum are doing right now
Considering no one is pushing back against this bloc outside of me occasionally mocking it

[the worst]

just checking

the players who are hard to accurately read are playing towny
the players who are easy to accurately read are playing scummy

........do we roll the dice on people who actually seem townie or just send 5 easily read players and lynch them in order of scumfuckery til we hit red? I genuinely cbf trying to work out which way is more likely to win

[the worst]

no one is pushing back against this bloc

^ p much where the idea of door #2 came from

[Mathdino]

And no one is incentivised to do serious gamestate analysis because there's no clear alternative to whatever townbloc they have at the moment

Like hooray you know that the gamestate precludes this bloc being all town
But then what do you do? I'm not even sure if I know

I just know that as is, there's no way this succeeds
Basic Resistance logic

[the worst]

unless it's literally like Ausuka/vizzy and they're just like........ noep

[Mathdino]

HURT: Ausuka
bad

Ausuka's definitely town
HEAL: Ausuka

You think this is a scum interaction?

It's not optimal to put both scum on the mission

Also basic resistance logic

[Myloninja13]

Well, what scum teams here aren't possible?

[the worst]

honestly I haven't very seriously considered an Ausuka/Vizzy scumteam yet so noh8 but maybe?

[Mathdino]

Scum is actually incentivised to bus and distance harder than usual in this setup

At least for this current stage

I think scumteams can be caught on that

BUT WE DON'T GET ANY FLIPS UNTIL AFTER THE COALITION

Fuck not having a feedback loop

Edit: every permutation of people outside the coalition

[the worst]

GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS

If we're fucked and it's time to go let's send everyone except the scumteams who would bend us the fuck over

[the worst]

Leave out
Wisdom
Hiraki
Mathdino
the worst

Send
Not_Mafia
NeenieKit
Myloninja13
Invisibility
Ausuka

[Mathdino]

I know that if I were scum in this setup

I would make sure one scum gets in the coalition but otherwise distances

Scum A townblocs scum B (who gets in the coalition)
While scum B busses scum A and locks them out

I think scumteams involving 2 people hardcore townreading each other are bad
As are scumteams that continually bomb each other's cred

[Mathdino]

GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS

If we're fucked and it's time to go let's send everyone except the scumteams who would bend us the fuck over

Wisdom is probably actually town though

You can't seriously be betting on a scumteam with 2 of me, Wisdom, and Hiraki?