Mini Theme 2008: Role Design Committee [Game Over]

[mutantdevle]

VOTECOUNT: 2.12

(4/7)

Ankamius - voted by: TheGoldenParadox, Chickadee, Kokichi Oma, the worst.

(3/7)

TheGoldenParadox - voted by: Alonzo, Ankamius, Espeonage.

(1/7)

Chickadee - voted by: Not Known 15.

(1/7)

Not Known 15 - voted by: StefanB.

(3)

Not voting: momrangal, Pine, NicoRobin.

With 12 players alive, 7 votes are needed for a majority. Only 6 votes are needed for a no lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-05-29 13:30:00).

[StefanB]

Welcome to the MAFIA CHAINSAW MASSACRE

Stefan how are you interpreting each chainsaw defence? I know it's a conventional scum tell but it's not a very good one (in the same range as OMGUS voting being scum indicative, armchair scumhunting crap)

I think you're thinking a couple of steps ahead of what you're sharing.

I know OMGUS is a shit scumtell, the chainsaw can happen in a game.
Sometimes it is difficult what to share and what you don't share.

Nico:

He loses his memory after using all of his abilities

is exactly the point that I wanting to see claryfied. What does that mean. Mutantdevil can't really devolled mindcontroltechnics and make TGP forget everythink that happens in the game.

[StefanB]

Ankamius: You and NotKnown seem to be very near together, you ask why your scumpartner should vote Chick.
Why should town-NotKnown vote here, he hasn't mention suspicion on the slot before.
And his reasoning:

Ankamius called her out for her suboptimal contributions.
Especially the daykill attempt out of nowhere and their general looseness with the daykill.
Until now I treated her as town because of her role.

That was stupid, and here is why:
It is one shot of a kill.
Normally this would be strange on Mafia because it gives Mafia a free kill and town one less lynch.
However...
On night 1, due to Stefan and their role(1-shot BP LR), Mafia actually did NOT have a kill!
This role makes perfect sense as mafia.

It is interesting to say the last.

If you are town, what would you think was NotKnowns motivation here?

What do you want to know about the hidden information? Why are you asking this?

[Chickadee]

I was legitimately not scumreading you that hard, the only reason you were on my radar at all is because of the really weird way you were trying to declare how town you were.

So I reaction tested you. Lo and behold, your response was scummy as fuck.

But go ahead, spin my opening into a scum read strong enough to warrant an immediate declaration that I'm blatantly scum because I'm scumreading you. I'll be waiting.

I was already scum reading your slot

, and then for you to come in and scum read me right off the bat, feels like scum trying to push a spicy read.
I feel like you keep glossing over the fact that I already had a scum read on your slot.

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Ankamius

I was already scum reading the slot, but

Ankamius really cleared it up and confirmed it

for me. Call it OMGUS if you want, but this needs to die.

Nah. I already had a scum read on Mafmen, and was

hoping you'd come in and clear the slot up so I could get a better read. You did....but to your detriment.

Like, I dont understand how you read D1 and come to the conclusion I'm scum.

At all.

???

[Ankamius]

feels like scum trying to push a spicy read.

I must be the best scum on the planet, replacing in and immediately pushing one of the most widely townread slots in the game.

Unless you can think of a reason why I would do that?

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Ankamius

I was already scum reading the slot

, but

Ankamius really cleared it up and confirmed it

for me. Call it OMGUS if you want, but this needs to die.

Nah.

I already had a scum read on Mafmen

, and was

hoping you'd come in and clear the slot up so I could get a better read. You did....but to your detriment.

Like, I dont understand how you read D1 and come to the conclusion I'm scum.

At all.

???

!!!

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Ankamius

I was already scum reading the slot

, but

Ankamius really cleared it up

and confirmed it

for me. Call it OMGUS if you want, but this needs to die.

Nah.

I already had a scum read on Mafmen

, and was

hoping you'd come in and

clear the slot up

so I could get a better read.

You did

....but to your detriment.

Like, I dont understand how you read D1 and come to the conclusion I'm scum.

At all.

???

!!!

??????

[StefanB]

The last few post *headdesk* what is the argument Ankamius.

[Chickadee]

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Like, I dont understand how you read D1 and come to the conclusion I'm scum.

At all.

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Claiming that your play was a reaction test is bullshit. Where is the town motivation in trying to reaction test the most widely town-read player? And you continue to gloss over the fact that I was already scum reading your slot.

[Ankamius]

The last few post *headdesk* what is the argument Ankamius.

Cleared the slot up indicates that my presence or actions CHANGED the read. Already scumreading my slot is irrelevant to my point.

[Ankamius]

The last few post *headdesk* what is the argument Ankamius.

Cleared the slot up indicates that my presence or actions CHANGED the read. Already scumreading my slot is irrelevant to my point.

[Ankamius]

Claiming that your play was a reaction test is bullshit. Where is the town motivation in trying to reaction test the most widely town-read player?

1. I was already lightly scumreading your slot
2. I was already strongly scumreading StefanB
3. Your interactions with each other were sketchy as fuck

[Chickadee]

It didn't

change

the read, it

affirmed

the read.



You still haven't answered the question from Stefan about what you think of the NK slot intentions.

[Ankamius]

What's there to answer about that?

Seeing a scumread from a replacement causes him to go back and read it again, which changes his perception of it. That's perfectly acceptable as a town motivation.

However, it doesn't make sense from a scumpartner of mine. That's completely insane.

[Ankamius]

It didn't

change

the read, it

affirmed

the read.

THEN WHAT ABOUT IT AFFIRMED THE READ?

[Chickadee]

It didn't

change

the read, it

affirmed

the read.

THEN WHAT ABOUT IT AFFIRMED THE READ?

We are going to run in circles over this....

You came in and immediately scum read the most town player in the game. Your reasons are ridiculous. Theres no scum motivation in wasting shots. And then to say it was all a reaction test is even more ridiculous.

[StefanB]

3. Your interactions with each other

(Chick and StefanB)

were sketchy as fuck

I bolded the part I added, is this about interactions on day 1, or later?

P-Edit: My problem is that your action and reactions to a lot of thinks, seem to be tandem.
I see a player with interesting reasoning(to say the last) agreeing with you, a player I had a scumread on for quite some time.
It makes an interesting situation.
Now asume you are wrong about the Chickread, what would that mean?

[Chickadee]

What's there to answer about that?

Seeing a scumread from a replacement causes him to go back and read it again, which changes his perception of it. That's perfectly acceptable as a town motivation.

However, it doesn't make sense from a scumpartner of mine. That's completely insane.

I know you are not too dense to see that NK has been sheeping and buddying you.

[Momrangal]

It didn't

change

the read, it

affirmed

the read.

THEN WHAT ABOUT IT AFFIRMED THE READ?

We are going to run in circles over this....

You came in and immediately scum read the most town player in the game. Your reasons are ridiculous. Theres no scum motivation in wasting shots. And then to say it was all a reaction test is even more ridiculous.

This is also ridiculous

Here

VOTE: NK15

[Alonzo]

UNVOTE

[NicoRobin]

Welcome to the MAFIA CHAINSAW MASSACRE

Stefan how are you interpreting each chainsaw defence? I know it's a conventional scum tell but it's not a very good one (in the same range as OMGUS voting being scum indicative, armchair scumhunting crap)

I think you're thinking a couple of steps ahead of what you're sharing.

I know OMGUS is a shit scumtell, the chainsaw can happen in a game.
Sometimes it is difficult what to share and what you don't share.

Nico:

He loses his memory after using all of his abilities

is exactly the point that I wanting to see claryfied. What does that mean. Mutantdevil can't really devolled mindcontroltechnics and make TGP forget everythink that happens in the game.

It means that he becomes a vanilla.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: NK15

TW, Koki, you know what to do.

[Alonzo]

Hmm this is Tough..

The three slots Im most curious about

Pine / Koki/ NK

[the worst]

Naw need more time to consider NK15.