Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[OnTheMark]

I was trying to solve in the hood a bit with rc so I was lurking but now he's gone feels bad ;-;
VOTE: Tchi
this now

Who did your group track?

[Ramcius]

I thought we were supposed to be mass claiming today?
Well doesn't really matter to me, but I need to know if I need to go and figure a mass claim order or not.

well, if OTM right and we don't have real protective, massclaim isn't good idea, it would just give scum better idea who to kill

That’s where I disagree.

I think a majority of town PRs have already claimed.

Well, there's still must be unclaimed PRs left - you said yourself that we have 2-4 VTs only and 2 VTs already dead

I made no such statement. In fact the only such statement I made was that games IMHO are horribly balanced.

sorry, for some reason i thought it was you, who speculated setup numbers, but i clearly remember someone throwing around role madness with like 10-12 PRs

[OnTheMark]

I think OTM's off the mark.

Why?

If Dave is town, ETL should be a proven vig.
If Dave is scum then ETL did that kill.

Please help me to understand how both Dave and ETL are town. Where is that off the mark?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway i want Jungle to explain themselves.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I already told you it's not as black and white as you think it is.

[OnTheMark]

Anyway i want Jungle to explain themselves.

Right I forgot jungle derp

Yeah Jungle / <One of Dave/ETL or both>

[MariaR]

I was trying to solve in the hood a bit with rc so I was lurking but now he's gone feels bad ;-;
VOTE: Tchi
this now

Who did your group track?

If we're mass claiming I don't need to say atm
someone else is in the hood as well to back up what I say anyway

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway i want Jungle to explain themselves.

Right I forgot jungle derp

Yeah Jungle / <One of Dave/ETL or both>

OR Someone hit ETL's BP
OR there's a doctor

Like really.

[OnTheMark]

I already told you it's not as black and white as you think it is.

Which I agree.

It isn’t that black and white.

Which is why I did what I thought was the most informing least risk. There’s only so many times we can have one kill before the simple answer is the right one.

[OnTheMark]

Anyway i want Jungle to explain themselves.

Right I forgot jungle derp

Yeah Jungle / <One of Dave/ETL or both>

OR Someone hit ETL's BP
OR there's a doctor

Like really.

Someone hit ETL’s BP was the excuse yesterday. What mod puts in a 2+ shot BP for town?
Furthermore in the case ETL is town then he shot RC who he townread
Or scum healed the missing kill.

[OnTheMark]

This protective cannot belong to town.

If scum shot Bear (or is Dave)
Then Bear shot RC

If scum shot RC
Bear’s shot is missing and protected by scum

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Or ETL's odd-night or non-consecutive or loyal or who knows what else.
Apparently the term Gated isnt in your dictionary.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Specifically in this case, it means that there is some additional modifier to our role.

That modifier may or may not be one of the following:

Can only target someone on the wagon at EoD or any variation thereof.
Even/Odd Night
Loyal
X-Shot
Nonconsecutive
Night X
Night X,Y, etc.
Loses the ability if a kill fails
Enabled
I'm intentionally cutting this list short, because if I list every modifier I can think of to the role of vig and forget one, someone could reasonably assume that that is not our specific gate and thus we lose the advantage of scum not knowing if they need to play around our shot. I may or may not have included our specific gate in this list, although I will admit that it is not loyal. I think that would be an interesting choice to modify vig with though.

It's like you didn't read.

[OnTheMark]

Or ETL's odd-night or non-consecutive or loyal or who knows what else.
Apparently the term Gated isnt in your dictionary.

The gate is irrelevant.

Bear in the post I cited said he could prove himself vig.

Ergo whatever that gate is means he still fires.

Therefore he hit scum that protected the shot somehow or hit RC.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh did they say that the would prove their shot specifically last night?
Or that they could prove it.

[OnTheMark]

By having no kills overnight or by having two kills overnight.

That doesn't prove the BP part dude... only proves we're a vig.

Doesn't matter. Don't care to argue with someone who is completely unable to understand simple logic. I will only get frustrated. And I really shouldn't even have logged on here from work today. Bye.

Can’t find it that but I did find this, where he said he could prove himself vig. I fully expect Impossibear to claim the shot on RC or for Dave to be scum. He thought he could prove himself vig based on this pissed off post to me.

@Kaede

He said he could prove himself vig here. I am tired for the night but I blocked Dave explicitly because of the widow I mentioned and for two kills to be able to have bear remove my paranoia.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

>Can prove themselves vig.
>Is gated so probably couldnt prove themselves last night.
>The gate is irrelevant

Are you serious with this moon logic.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Regardless, there has to be at least a doctor otherwise my 2nd ability doesnt make any sense.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

A town doctor for that matter.

[OnTheMark]

>Can prove themselves vig.
>Is gated so probably couldnt prove themselves last night.
>The gate is irrelevant

Are you serious with this moon logic.

1) Can prove themselves vig, based on their own words
2) Ergo the gate is irrelevant
3) Since they claimed they can prove themselves uhmmm they need to prove themselves.

[OnTheMark]

A town doctor for that matter.

I am going to bed. I don’t believe based on my abilities a town doctor can exist.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, so they didnt need to prove themselves last night or couldn't.

[Impossibear]

Yeah.... So first of all,

VOTE: Jungle

I was gonna post more things, but I think I need to talk to ETL first.

Night yall.

[Impossibear]

Actually, Maria can't be faking tracker, so keeping cards close to the chest is unimportant.

We didn't shoot last night, FWIW.

Let's get this party starter.

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Ramcius