Micro 803: The Coalition

[Wisdom]

Like regardless of scum inside the bloc Neenie is easily the best bet for scum outside it

Which bloc is "bloc"
Because she is inside mine

[Ausuka]

Hiraki, tw, NM, Neenie, Wis were all fine with it or a tiny variant. That's maj easily and most of the others haven't really actually been pushing against it. Either the scumteam is me and Math or scum haven't been pushing against it and then you have to answer why I basically didn't do anything for a few days when scum were getting pushed into a corner.

[Hiraki]

Blaming me and N_M for being done with this game and trying to complain that it's wrong by saying "well it has no resistance, it must be scum" is some grade A scum talk when it's been voted by 2 people

Pre-Edit: tiny variant doesn't mean shit, that's a difference, THAT'S LITERALLY RESISTANCE

[Ausuka]

Like regardless of scum inside the bloc Neenie is easily the best bet for scum outside it

Which bloc is "bloc"
Because she is inside mine

I'm going with the hiraki/NM version which seems to be the one people agree on the most. I don't think it really makes much of a difference unless tw is scum and Neenie is town which I find somewhat unlikely. Scum are going to be somewhat opposed to it if scum is in townbloc and not TW because it means they're both in the lynchpool until one of them flips but I wouldn't imagine majorly so.

[Invisibility]

714 raises good points
HURT: Neenie

[Ausuka]

Blaming me and N_M for being done with this game and trying to complain that it's wrong by saying "well it has no resistance, it must be scum" is some grade A scum talk when it's been voted by 2 people

Pre-Edit: tiny variant doesn't mean shit, that's a difference, THAT'S LITERALLY RESISTANCE

Resistance from Wisdom. Who was inside the bloc. So he's obviously not scum getting pushed into a corner by a correct townbloc.

[Wisdom]

I'm going with the hiraki/NM version which seems to be the one people agree on the most.

what people are those? I see nobody agreeing with that specific bloc other than hiraki and nm

[Hiraki]

Does Wisdom have an exponent by his name?

[Hiraki]

My eyes might be blind here but he doesn't - which means there's a difference.

Your argument lies in the fact that people are voting similarly. Whoopdewoop. People have the same town reads but not the same coalition.

[Ausuka]

i feel like this is going nowhere

can we just agree on a wisdom/mylo/hiraki/nm/neenie coalition and see what happens?

I'm actually ok with that

if TW is okay with this, I'm assuming he would be OK with him being in one of those slots too since everyone wants themselves in the bloc generally. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

[Ausuka]

My argument there is basically

If the townbloc is correct it has to be Math/Invis, Math/Neenie or Invis/Neenie fmpov. Based on resistance

from those players

I don't really think scum is one of those pairs, i.e that bloc is correct.

Considering tw is fine with the version without him and the same goes for Neenie, I don't think anything changes there, unless I'm missing something.

[Hiraki]

If the townbloc is correct it has to be Math/Invis, Math/Neenie or Invis/Neenie fmpov. Based on resistance from those players I don't really think scum is one of those pairs, i.e that bloc is correct.

Pretty sure this coalition fails 100% due to the lack of resistance to it, but I can't think of an alternative that people would accept.

Pretty big change.

[Ausuka]

My argument there is basically

If the townbloc is correct it has to be Math/Invis, Math/Neenie or Invis/Neenie fmpov. Based on resistance

from those players

I don't really think scum is one of those pairs, i.e that bloc is incorrect.

Considering tw is fine with the version without him and the same goes for Neenie, I don't think anything changes there, unless I'm missing something.

sorry am sleepy

[Ausuka]

If the townbloc is correct it has to be Math/Invis, Math/Neenie or Invis/Neenie fmpov. Based on resistance from those players I don't really think scum is one of those pairs, i.e that bloc is correct.

Pretty sure this coalition fails 100% due to the lack of resistance to it, but I can't think of an alternative that people would accept.

Pretty big change.

No, both of those are the same thing. Why would resistance from inside the bloc mean anything? If they're scum, they're in the bloc already; they don't have to worry about resisting or not resisting.

[Ausuka]

If you're talking about the correct/incorrect thing I am sleepy and that was a typo.

[Wisdom]

My argument there is basically

If the townbloc is correct it has to be Math/Invis, Math/Neenie or Invis/Neenie fmpov. Based on resistance

from those players

I don't really think scum is one of those pairs, i.e that bloc is correct.

Considering tw is fine with the version without him and the same goes for Neenie, I don't think anything changes there, unless I'm missing something.

Okay, define resistance then
Because i see none of those three players agreeing with the bloc

[Ausuka]

My argument there is basically

If the townbloc is correct it has to be Math/Invis, Math/Neenie or Invis/Neenie fmpov. Based on resistance

from those players

I don't really think scum is one of those pairs, i.e that bloc is correct.

Considering tw is fine with the version without him and the same goes for Neenie, I don't think anything changes there, unless I'm missing something.

Okay, define resistance then
Because i see none of those three players agreeing with the bloc

Neenie essentially is?

I define resistance as pushing firmly against the bloc that would win and trying to save the game by not letting the bloc go through. I don't think scum deal with potential instaloss by just saying something like “oh I personally disagree with that“ and not pushing for an alternative containing scum.

[Wisdom]

That depends on playstyle
Not everyone can plausibly fake strong resistance

[Wisdom]

I'll give you that its probably not math+someone outside the block because math would try more

[Wisdom]

Invis/neenie or invis/tw have decent chances though
I dont see any of those aggressively going against popular opinion and not being suspected

[northsidegal]

Rules Update: Post 1 specifies that I will mark identical

5-player

Coalitions with superscripted numbers. For the sake of clarity, I mark any identical Coalitions, no matter the size, with superscripted numbers.

[Mathdino]

I'll give you that its probably not math+someone outside the block because math would try more

i know you're talking about scum-me here

but i have like no motivation to play this hellhole of a game when my scumreads are more willing to sheep me than my townreads

the original goal was to lay low and drop a massive gamesolve near the end of D1

but yeah the chance of town unity is low enough that i'd rather watch hiraki/n_m be wrong

than propose a 50/50 deal and immediately get lynched if i'm wrong

[Not_Mafia]

This phase is going on way too long, just pick a coalition that has none of Math, Invis and Ausuka and we’re golden

[Not_Mafia]

I'll give you that its probably not math+someone outside the block because math would try more

i know you're talking about scum-me here

but i have like no motivation to play this hellhole of a game when my scumreads are more willing to sheep me than my townreads

the original goal was to lay low and drop a massive gamesolve near the end of D1

but yeah the chance of town unity is low enough that i'd rather watch hiraki/n_m be wrong

than propose a 50/50 deal and immediately get lynched if i'm wrong

I thought I was scum

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.15
Voter	Coalition
Wisdom	Myloninja13	Hiraki	Not_Mafia	NeenieKit
Hiraki 1	the worst	Myloninja13	Wisdom	Not_Mafia	Hiraki
Not_Mafia 1	Not_Mafia	the worst	Wisdom	Hiraki	Myloninja13
NeenieKit	Wisdom	NeenieKit	Hiraki
Myloninja13	the worst	Hiraki	Myloninja13	Wisdom
Mathdino	Wisdom	Hiraki	Myloninja13	Invisibility
Invisibility	Mathdino	the worst	Ausuka	Wisdom
Ausuka	Myloninja13	Wisdom	Invisibility	Mathdino	Ausuka
the worst	Wisdom	Hiraki	Myloninja13
(expired on 2018-06-08 18:59:59)